Technical

[Braves4Life]

Anybody remember when we were like 4-0 this season? Man everything was more fun back then...

But were things REALLY that much different? Remember, we lost to Quincy. QUINCY!

[Buesch N Chips]

You would prefer the unhappy fans went away you would have no fans left. Its not about this T or the last one that cost us a game its not even about this season. We hired a coach with ZERO resume who hasnt taken us into the top 3 in 9 years at the helm. We are on pace for one of the worst seasons in the history of the program and we just last at home to ISU after having an 11 point lead with two minutes left. What is the fabrication? What is the spin? Can you name anyother management position for any other company that would still keep this type of employee?

Your persuasion speech means nothing to me, as I am not pro-JL. The spin comes from taking things like that technical and spinning it to be his fault, when from all indications (except the spinmeisters), it was a crappy call. A few posts up from this you've got a poster saying that when you get a bench warning that means you are not supposed to stomp your feet at a player. Where does it say that? Oh that's right, it doesn't. It is a hindsight post and purely made up.

Like i said, everyone is frustrated, but it's how you handle yourself in those times that define you.

[Lakeview Brave]

Your persuasion speech means nothing to me, as I am not pro-JL. The spin comes from taking things like that technical and spinning it to be his fault, when from all indications (except the spinmeisters), it was a crappy call. A few posts up from this you've got a poster saying that when you get a bench warning that means you are not supposed to stomp your feet at a player. Where does it say that? Oh that's right, it doesn't. It is a hindsight post and purely made up.

Like i said, everyone is frustrated, but it's how you handle yourself in those times that define you.

Was this the first time this season he got a T at a crucial point in the game? You would think he would be extra carefull after getting a warning. This is two games that you can make an agument that the coach getting a T late cost us the game. Has that happend twice to any other coach in the country this season? I dont know the answer but probably not.

[AZ BU Fan]

I didn't get a good look at it on Channelsurfing, but it looked to me like JL had come out on the floor a little while the game was going on when he stomped or did whatever caught the eye of the official. My guess is when the offficial turned around to see what was being done by JL, and saw JL in what appeared to me to be on the floor, the T flew....

At the end of the day, poor play by DD and DSE, miserable free throw shooting, turnovers, stupid fouls, getting away from what gave BU the big leads in the game, chucking up shots, not getting enough touches for AW for the last 33 minutes of the FH, WE's gaffe, DD launching 3's when he can't make FT's....

This was a catastrophe waiting to happen. Like watching a car wreck, everything moved in slow motion to the inevitable end.

BU put itself in a position to be punished by bad officiating.....period.....

BTW....Officials gave BU every chance to put this away in the 2H with all the fouls they called on ISU after spanking BU in the FH ...

[mrcoachdude]

I am sorry, but JL and another coach were yelling at Will to get his rear in gear....that does not earn a T...it just does not fall into the guidlines for a T...

[shaunguth]

You take everything he does and make it negative, which is the exact opposite of what you accuse other people of, making things rosy of everything he does. The T was a ridiculous call, and everyone knows it. Only sad people trying to push their agenda would try to make it anything more. You've got two other boards which you love to pollute, yet you still find the time to come onto the pro-Bradley board and antagonize. If I was so unhappy about something, I sure wouldn't spend time on THREE message boards talking about it!

I never have said I want him gone, nor have I said I want him to stay. What I have said, is that there are people who know way more than me about how he has done with the program who will make that decision, and I will support what they decide. I'm not one of those guys who holds up the concourse walls with his back at halftime telling everyone around him how much he thinks he knows.

I'm frustrated. Everyone is. But there is enough to be frustrated about without the spin and the fabrication. The T was bogus, the officials were awful. The team played really well in spurts, we had spells where we looked better than we have all year, but we really struggled with Carmichael. He's good.

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[FortyTwo]

C'mon man, of course the bench warning doesn't specifically say don't stomp your foot at a player. You have to understand how to interpret what the ref means when he gives you the warning. It means everything you do is now being scrutinized and you've been warned.

I agree it was a crappy call and shouldn't have been made, but this is the third time this year Les has gotten teed up at the end of a close game. I call that a pattern of porr decisions and begavior and because of that you lose the benefit of the doubt with me. When you earn the reputation, sometime you have to deal with the unfair consequences.

[lefty]

C'mon man, of course the bench warning doesn't specifically say don't stomp your foot at a player. You have to understand how to interpret what the ref means when he gives you the warning. It means everything you do is now being scrutinized and you've been warned.

I agree it was a crappy call and shouldn't have been made, but this is the third time this year Les has gotten teed up at the end of a close game. I call that a pattern of porr decisions and begavior and because of that you lose the benefit of the doubt with me. When you earn the reputation, sometime you have to deal with the unfair consequences.

exactly...seems like JL has zero repect from league officials...

I did see JIm Bain there though....I wonder if he's proud of this crew

[Buesch N Chips]

I didn't get a good look at it on Channelsurfing, but it looked to me like JL hd come out on the floor a little while the game was going on when he stomped or did whatever caught the eye of the official. My guess is when the offficial turned around to see what was being done by JL, and saw JL in what appeared to me to be on the floor, the T flew....

At the end of the day, poor play by DD and DSE, miserable free throw shooting, turovers, stupid fouls, getting away from what gave BU the big leads in the game and chucking up shots, not getting enough touches for AW for the last 33 minutes of the FH, WE's gaffe, DD launching 3's when he can't make FT's....

This was a catastrophe waiting to happen. Like watching a car wreck, everything moved in slow motion to the inevitable end.

BU put itself in a position to be punished by bad officiating.....period.....

BTW....Officials gave BU every chance to put this away in the 2H with all the fouls they called on ISU after spanking BU in the FH ...

It looked to me like he was half in half out, which I think means you are in. And quite honestly, what WE did on that play was so dumb I could hardly believe my eyes.

Which ref called the T?

Everything else in your post I pretty much agree. We played really well at times but our breakdowns are legendary.

[shaunguth]

Les had already recieved a bench warning which means zero tolernace. You don't leave the box, swear, stomp your feet, anything to give them a reason.

Using that logic, Jank should have been ejected. How many times was he told to get back in the box.....AFTER he was already given a T earlier in the game?

[Da Coach]

Jim Bain retired a little over a year ago, and the director of officiating in the MVC now is Eddie Jackson.-

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[FortyTwo]

And as a former player who has been in the position, I guarantee you some of the players were and are really pissed that there coach would put them in that position. They were struggling enough as is, the last thing they need is their coach giving the other team more points and a huge momentum swing, regardless if the call was right or wrong.

And I was at the game, close to the BU bench and Les was definitely yelling at Will. However, he was most definitely on the court (after a warning a T can be called for simply leaving the coaches box) and it was happening the same time the ref missed the travel call on ISU.

[lefty]

Jim Bain retired a little over a year ago, and the director of officiating in the MVC now is Eddie Jackson.-
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good grief....why would he come to this game?

[AZ BU Fan]

Using that logic, Jank should have been ejected. How many times was he told to get back in the box.....AFTER he was already given a T eariler in the game?

Don't disagree one bit. But what's the point? JL got nailed, Jank didn't. We all agree the refs were horrible, but, at the end of the day, BU had the game won and put themselves in a position to get screwed by the refs. It was in their hands. Missed FT's, particularly AFTER the technical, lost the game for BU....

One could also say ISU would have put this game away without the ridiculous call on ISU which precipitated the T against Yank..Making the eventual screw up play by WE and ridiculous T against JL a moot point...

[Da Coach]

I have seen him at several games this year, both at home and on the road. Maybe he still consults or works for the MVC in some capacity, I don't know.
Jim Les did say on his postgame show that he intended to write to Eddie Jackson and ask him to look into the technical, since none of JL's actions were directed at the official. It shouldn't have been called. I suspect the ref knew he had blown a travelling calls on 2 different Redbirds on the possession, and then in a paranoid, rabbiteared moment, jumped to the assumption that JL's actions were meant to show up his awful job of officiating.