BU 68--CU 81 final post game thread

[ph]

Jordan Prosser...... 9 minutes? WTF!

Instead of finding a way to punish other teams that mess with our game plan, We now reward other teams that push our post guys out of position by benching our bigs and playing even smaller as a team.

[Braveman]

Box score are not up yet but will be!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2011-01-19&c=mvc

Nice to see WL and DSE have nice games tonight.....AW gets his pts but little other help from others

?? 19 from DSE- double figures from Walt Lemon? Not sure what you mean by little help elsewhere?

[Beninator]

Watch the games and look at all the wide-open threes we give up...it isn't hard for guys to have career games if they never have to hit a contested shot from the perimeter...
Chase the ball...overpursue...chase the ball...reversal...wide open 3 after wide open 3...it's been happening for years now...

And before the other team reverses the ball, one of their players literally stands on the perimeter waiting for the pass for the uncontested three while his teammate drives toward the basket for our guys to over pursue on defense!

[Beninator]

Jordan Prosser...... 9 minutes? WTF!

Just checked out the stats from last night's game. Outside of Egolf, anyone with size played a total of 22 minutes last night and that is throwing in Milos' 6 minutes. SMH

[lefty]

I didn't see the game but in looking at the box score they had 21 assists on 27 made shots...that's pretty impressive..one guy plays over 30 minutes and 9 guys get double digit minutes...that would be nice too.

Seems like Andrew waits until the second half to get going.....if he can score any time he wants I'm thinking he should start in the first half

It is good to see some scoring from our young guys.

[LittleBrave]

Watch the games and look at all the wide-open threes we give up...it isn't hard for guys to have career games if they never have to hit a contested shot from the perimeter...
Chase the ball...overpursue...chase the ball...reversal...wide open 3 after wide open 3...it's been happening for years now...

Yup!

[srw]

Everyone knows what your point is. It's your purpose for every post. But if you are going to acknowledge potential shortcomings in scouting, preparedness, and fundamentals, which I am sure are also judged by the people that do the hiring and firing, you also need to be fair and acknowledge injuries, inexperience, and bad luck, even if it does not support your agenda. And vice versa. It goes for the rose-colored glasses crowd as well as the poop-colored ones. Failure to present both sides is a failure to be objective.

bad luck?

isnt that offset by good luck?

[LittleBrave]

What I took from last night's game (besides that we could possibly end up 1-17):

WL is our most tenacious player - he is not afraid to get up and defend in the opposition's face, and taking it to the rack on offense. I really like what he offers the team. Work on his 10-foot jumper and he'll be tough to stop.

DSE had a decent game, though he doesn't seem to be a solid PG. I think Walt might have an edge on him.

A-Dubb o.k. game, but couldn't hit outside shots like normal. Found other ways to score.

Our 1st-half defense was sooooooo porous (from the 12-minute mark on) - their inside-out game and passing around the perimeter gave them open looks all half. Why can't we do that? We have to force up shots more than any other team in the Valley.

I was happy to see Milos playing, albeit for 6 minutes. He was just off from making a couple 3 bombs.

JE is a good role player - we need him to give us 15 min. or so next year, but he's just not a scorer. He does the intangibles, but this season, when our scoring is at a premium, his inability to score is exposed.

WE looked worse than I've ever seen him. The prospect of him returning next year doesn't excite me - I really thought he had potential, but it's taken too long. I just don't see him breaking out and playing consistent. We basically just have TB (maybe) and JP to rely on down low for next season...not good enough for Top 3 in the Valley unless JP really improves, which he could, but we have will have no depth in the low post again, but brimming with talent at guard.

I still stand by my opinion that this team works harder than teams from the last 2 seasons. We saw in the 1st 4 games how never giving up and working hard on both ends can result in a W. I'm pleased with the players working hard despite an 0-8 record and frustration evident.

[JMM28]

Seems like Andrew waits until the second half to get going.....if he can score any time he wants I'm thinking he should start in the first half
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See the Bears v. Seahawks second half to explain that. Hasselbeck finished with a decent line, but the Seahawks were never in it and he didn't perform when it mattered.

These good second halves that everyone keeps harping on are a product of BU getting their brains beaten in during the first half. I don't think any coach in the valley has any desire to run the score up on a team in the second half. It is that whole karma thing perhaps. Or knowing they'll have a down year once in awhile.

This is the first season I can ever remember with so many lopsided games in the Valley.

[mrcoachdude]

Jordan Prosser...... 9 minutes? WTF!

he was struggling against their big guy....but who wasn't....

we started two bigs, but went away from that till the 2nd half....what do we have to lose by playing the youngster more minutes?

[JMM28]

f....what do we have to lose by playing the youngster more minutes?

+100000

JP should be playing 30+ minutes a game until his legs fall off, he fouls out, or whatever. Same with WL, DSE, and JE

[mrcoachdude]

How can that be? I thought losing your two best players means that it is a certainty that you will lose every Valley game? How is it that Indy State is 7-1? Hmmmm....

Why do I feel the need to follow you around the threads and disagree with you? 1st they are not out all season and the emotional part of a heart ailment is not there... They also may not be their two best players...but its ok...Indy is better than we are...way better

[mrcoachdude]

When will someone just say that the coaches are not good enough and neither are they players.

we are being outcoached and outplayed....how is that?

surely you see that we all know that, however there are circumstances that others have turned a blind eye to...they just don't exist..

[mrcoachdude]

I think the reason that Indy State keeps getting brought up is because it seems like every time someone brings up the opinion that it is totally inexcusable for BU to go this far into the tank...the "optimistic voices" on the board tell us over and over again..."of course we can't win...we lost two quality players, what do you expect...?" That response doesn't hold a lot of water when you've got a team at the top of our conference overachieving without having two of their best players for much of the time...

ER..please show me where anyone said "we can not win"...again you can not compare Indy and BU with respect to injuries...there is no comparrison...and no two ways about it...Indst is a very very good team...I would say they are better than us with TB and SM....but wouldn't it be great to see it for real...

[Dallas Brave]

we are being outcoached and outplayed....how is that?

surely you see that we all know that, however there are circumstances that others have turned a blind eye to...they just don't exist..

I don't think we are benig outcoached, I think BU is being under-coached regardless of the opponent. As Pogo said, "we have met the enemy and he is us"