A Little Enlightenment on Revenue

[srw]

there's many factors, and no matter what is done -- some fans don't like it...

I am not the one in charge nor is it my job to decide what gets done but I believe if the head coach is fired the will be unintended bad consequences that will keep us at the bottom of the MVC for a long time to come.

Example -- ISU ran out Porter Moser and had hoped after 3 years to be better off...
nope, they are currently way worse off than any time when Porter was there.

UNI is different, they never fired their coach...but no MVC school that fired their coach this past decade has won a single NCAA game have they? (except BU of course)...so it's not like we can point to a lot of success this past decade that came from terminating one coach then getting a new guy.

thats sorta a stretch IMO.
wsu fired smithson to get turgeon
uni fired sam something or other to get mcdermott
siu fired herrin for weber.
bradley fired mo, got les

i think your point is that all these are second generation successes (except for BU), which i can agree with. But to that point, maybe Mo should still be here

[wizard1]

Gloomy predictions

t--- Your very gloomy prediction in support of keeping JL is not only surprising, it's off the wall and simply wrong, IMO.

After Fordy A., we had Oz and had super success.

After Stowell, we hired Versace and had great success until Abegg sold him out.

After Albeck, we had JM and we were successful for a number of years.

In no way will changing coaches doom us to the bottom of the MVC for years. To the contrary, not changing coaches may doom us to the bottom!

[BradleyBrave]

I love how some people are trying to make us believe the 100+ year old program that is Bradley Men's Basketball will more or less fold if one of the worst coaches record-wise in school history is relieved of his duties. It's quite comical what morons we are taken for.

[real fan]

there's many factors, and no matter what is done -- some fans don't like it...

I am not the one in charge nor is it my job to decide what gets done but I believe if the head coach is fired the will be unintended bad consequences that will keep us at the bottom of the MVC for a long time to come.

Example -- ISU ran out Porter Moser and had hoped after 3 years to be better off...
nope, they are currently way worse off than any time when Porter was there.

UNI is different, they never fired their coach...but no MVC school that fired their coach this past decade has won a single NCAA game have they? (except BU of course)...so it's not like we can point to a lot of success this past decade that came from terminating one coach then getting a new guy.

ISU was in the championship game of the Valley tour. 2 years in a row so losing Moser did not hurt them.

[tornado]

no MVC school that fired their coach this past decade -- (except BU)...

wsu fired smithson to get turgeon --- happened 11 years ago
uni fired sam something or other to get mcdermott -- happened 10 years ago
siu fired herrin for weber. -- happened THIRTEEN years ago
bradley fired mo, got les -- I said "except BU" so you acknowledge that..

So why when you prove I was 100% absolutely correct, do you act like you just proved me wrong?

No team that fired their coach in the past decade got any substantially better and won an NCAA game...

BTW -- Cuonzo is finding out exactly how good Barry Hinson's recruiting was....where'd he be without Weems?



BTW -- I am of the opinion that had we stuck with Molinari in 2002 and not fired him, then 2002-2003 might have been around .500, but then we'd have had an awesome team for a couple years with
Danny Granger, Joah Tucker, Antoine Tisby, James Gillingham, Phillips Gilbert, Marcello Robinson, and who knows who else??
That's almost 8000 career points in D-I among them...
But 2005 BU would have been a top 25 team....but the fans wanted a change and now they are not happy with what they got...duhh......you know what I'm sayin'........

[peoriaspitfire]

wsu fired smithson to get turgeon --- happened 11 years ago
uni fired sam something or other to get mcdermott -- happened 10 years ago
siu fired herrin for weber. -- happened THIRTEEN years ago
bradley fired mo, got les -- I said "except BU" so you acknowledge that..

So why when you prove I was 100% absolutely correct, do you act like you just proved me wrong?

No team that fired their coach in the past decade got any substantially better and won an NCAA game...

BTW -- Cuonzo is finding out exactly how good Barry Hinson's recruiting was....where'd he be without Weems?



BTW -- I am of the opinion that had we stuck with Molinari in 2002 and not fired him, then 2002-2003 might have been around .500, but then we'd have had an awesome team for a couple years with
Danny Granger, Joah Tucker, Antoine Tisby, James Gillingham, Phillips Gilbert, Marcello Robinson, and who knows who else??
That's almost 8000 career points in D-I among them...
But 2005 BU would have been a top 25 team....but the fans wanted a change and now they are not happy with what they got...duhh......you know what I'm sayin'........

Ya jus never know.

This was an interesting take on words... "...fired mo, got les..."

[tornado]

..so losing Moser did not hurt them.

hmmm..you sure?? Here we are less than 4 years into the Jank era and there are threads on their board talking about firing him...
I gotta think that since Porter had all the pieces and players in line to win 70 games the next three years...that had he stayed, they'd currently be way better than 0-7...case closed..

Ok, how long does BU wait for the BU renaissance under JL?
..

you asking me?? I say wait & see -- but I am not in charge -- instead of asking a bunch of people on a message board --
....try this number...(309) 677-3167

[Braves4Life]

-- instead of asking a bunch of people on a message board --
....try this number...(309) 677-3167

Oh yes! Please do AZ BU Fan. That should be one interesting conversation. And please report back to us what she says.

[Buesch N Chips]

I thought that was the whole purpose of an Internet Forum...to read and express opinions on BU Basketball with a bunch of people on a message board with similar interests....

No one would disagree, but I will say the constant attacking, and some unfair accusations and spin, are frustrating to me, as I try to see things objectively. Instead of giving an opinion then moving on, some of you seem to be championing a cause of termination, and every post has to be a means towards that end. Seems a bit mean-spirited. Just my opinion.

[real fan]

wsu fired smithson to get turgeon --- happened 11 years ago
uni fired sam something or other to get mcdermott -- happened 10 years ago
siu fired herrin for weber. -- happened THIRTEEN years ago
bradley fired mo, got les -- I said "except BU" so you acknowledge that..

So why when you prove I was 100% absolutely correct, do you act like you just proved me wrong?

No team that fired their coach in the past decade got any substantially better and won an NCAA game...

BTW -- Cuonzo is finding out exactly how good Barry Hinson's recruiting was....where'd he be without Weems?



BTW -- I am of the opinion that had we stuck with Molinari in 2002 and not fired him, then 2002-2003 might have been around .500, but then we'd have had an awesome team for a couple years with
Danny Granger, Joah Tucker, Antoine Tisby, James Gillingham, Phillips Gilbert, Marcello Robinson, and who knows who else??
That's almost 8000 career points in D-I among them...
But 2005 BU would have been a top 25 team....but the fans wanted a change and now they are not happy with what they got...duhh......you know what I'm sayin'........

Tisby would not have been eligible, Tucker transferred to be with his girl friend and with Bradleys luck Granger would have gooten injured.

[tornado]

not sure I agree with any of that --- how do you know Tisby wouldn't have been eligible under Mo?
also if Granger stayed under Mo he'd have been a stud and you know it..
and lastly -- Tucker's transfer had little to do with a girlfriend -- it was 100% due to our coaching change and an aggressive "recruiting" and tampering maneuver by the head coach at UW-M.

[srw]

not sure I agree with any of that --- how do you know Tisby wouldn't have been eligible under Mo?
also if Granger stayed under Mo he'd have been a stud and you know it..
and lastly -- Tucker's transfer had little to do with a girlfriend -- it was 100% due to our coaching change and an aggressive "recruiting" and tampering maneuver by the head coach at UW-M.

wait a second tornado....

Mo said flat out that Joah was having girlfriend issues...

He also said simple solution....get her girlfriend to enroll here...

they had a solution.

[real fan]

not sure I agree with any of that --- how do you know Tisby wouldn't have been eligible under Mo?
also if Granger stayed under Mo he'd have been a stud and you know it..
and lastly -- Tucker's transfer had little to do with a girlfriend -- it was 100% due to our coaching change and an aggressive "recruiting" and tampering maneuver by the head coach at UW-M.

Granger was a stud to begin with, Tisby from everything I heard was not making the grades which is why he left and Tucker was tampered with by Bruce Pearl but his girl friend played a major role in him wanting to go back to Milwaukee,no girl friend would have meant he stays at BU.

[fan]

Tisby had a problem and would not have been back. Tucker was in love but probably would have returned to BU.

[srw]

Tisby had a problem and would not have been back. Tucker was in love but probably would have returned to BU.

Did you see that girl...
didnt blame him..

gotta love those whitefish bay girls