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Be sure to understand that I cannot say what IS going to happen only what I think is a good or bad idea....
I cannot predict what will be done by anyone who has already been hard to predict...
Do we want JL to stay because he is a top coach and recruiter who will suddenly turn his BU program around .....
OR
Do we keep JL because we fear a loss of BU donors who are big JL fans, but, perhaps not as much big BU fans, who are only concerned with Les staying because he is their bud?
OR
Do we keep JL because it costs too much to buy out his BU contract extension, which in retrospect, looks like a pretty bad deal for BU, akin to the money thrown away on Alfonso Sorry-iano by the Cubs...
If the reasons are #2 or #3, I feel sorry for BU....and their fans...
Conference record
Versace 81-49
Albeck 41-31
Molinari 110-88
Les 70-80
Home record
Versace 90-17
Albeck 49-20
Molinari 117-36
Les 100-38
Away record
Versace 47-46
Albeck 22-42
Molinari 43-93
Les 32-81
Post Season Record
Versace 6-3
Albeck 0-1
Molinari 4-6
Les 10-5
Record vs. ISU
Versace 8-7
Albeck 7-4
Molinari 10-13
Les 10-7
MVC Tourney Record
Versace 6-6
Albeck 3-3
Molinari 11-10
Les 5-8
Average MVC finish
Versace ??“ 3
Albeck ??“ 4.8
Molinari ??“ 4.4
Les ??“ 5.2
Record with an NBA player
Versace (JJ) 67-29
Versace (Hawk) 49-16
Albeck (Hawk) 43-17
Molinari (AP) 82-39
Les (POB) 35-26
Record Without an NBA Player
Versace 31-26
Albeck 32-54
Molinari 92-113
Les 113-105
These are the facts. Good post BNC. The S16 was a fluke. It seems like there are just a handfull of posters that can't say anything negative about JL for whatever reason.
These are the facts. Good post BNC. The S16 was a fluke. It seems like there are just a handfull of posters that can't say anything negative about JL for whatever reason.
And I ask SO WHAT....why should you or I care IF someone chooses NOT to say anything negative about BU, Les..the economy....the Packers (wait we NEED to dis the Packers).
I keep saying to live in your OWN world when it comes to BU. Discuss your feelings...debate with those that see otherwise but respect individual thoughts about BU/Les/Players/ scheduling etc.
And WHY was the sweet 16 a fluke? If YOU think so fine but I saw the games and we earned each victory.
We do agree on this. People can have their own opinions, but why do some who are anti-Jim Les continue to attack those who don't agree with them, and minimize or ignore the successes JL has had?
And I ask SO WHAT....why should you or I care IF someone chooses NOT to say anything negative about BU, Les..the economy....the Packers (wait we NEED to dis the Packers).
I keep saying to live in your OWN world when it comes to BU. Discuss your feelings...debate with those that see otherwise but respect individual thoughts about BU/Les/Players/ scheduling etc.
And WHY was the sweet 16 a fluke? If YOU think so fine but I saw the games and we earned each victory.
Don't hate the Packers...come on man!
Agreed....we BEAT those teams in the NCAA. I was there, as many on this board were. We were the better team both days.
On that same line of thought....we have since earned our record as well. In the past few years we have not been the better team much.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
We do agree on this. People can have their own opinions, but why do some who are anti-Jim Les continue to attack those who don't agree with them, and minimize or ignore the successes JL has had?
Conference record
Versace 81-49
Albeck 41-31
Molinari 110-88
Les 70-80
Home record
Versace 90-17
Albeck 49-20
Molinari 117-36
Les 100-38
Away record
Versace 47-46
Albeck 22-42
Molinari 43-93
Les 32-81
Post Season Record
Versace 6-3
Albeck 0-1
Molinari 4-6
Les 10-5
Record vs. ISU
Versace 8-7
Albeck 7-4
Molinari 10-13
Les 10-7
MVC Tourney Record
Versace 6-6
Albeck 3-3
Molinari 11-10
Les 5-8
Average MVC finish
Versace ??“ 3
Albeck ??“ 4.8
Molinari ??“ 4.4
Les ??“ 5.2
Record with an NBA player
Versace (JJ) 67-29
Versace (Hawk) 49-16
Albeck (Hawk) 43-17
Molinari (AP) 82-39
Les (POB) 35-26
Record Without an NBA Player
Versace 31-26
Albeck 32-54
Molinari 92-113
Les 113-105
Facts about this post.
Versace had J.J. 4 years.
Versace had the Hawk 3 years.
Albeck had the Hawk for 1 year when he was at his best.
Molinari had A.P. for 4 years.
Jim had P.O.B. only 2 years.
NOT FACT ONLY MY OPINION ....
J.L. RECORD WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER WITH 2 MORE YEARS OF P.O.B.
These are the facts. Good post BNC. The S16 was a fluke. It seems like there are just a handfull of posters that can't say anything negative about JL for whatever reason.
I personally did not research or post those stats to make a point either way. I just thought it would be interesting.
And I agree that people really shouldn't care about other fans' views, although I wish there was a place where optimism reigned. PJS is almost entirely negative, and this place is sometimes overrun by the same. Not saying Les is the man for the job, or that he isn't, but while he is there I will support and not take shots.
That's why I liked the premise of this thread. Providing facts without trying to convert people to your side or mock the program. For some, apparently, that is impossible.
Facts about this post.
Versace had J.J. 4 years.
Versace had the Hawk 3 years.
Albeck had the Hawk for 1 year when he was at his best.
Molinari had A.P. for 4 years.
Jim had P.O.B. only 2 years.
Mo actually only had AP for like 3.5 years, and had Granger for 1.
Les also had Granger for 10 months.
Mo actually only had AP for like 3.5 years, and had Granger for 1.
Les also had Granger for 10 months.
Who cares who had who for how many years? Each coach has so many total scholarships to use. you never know who is going to stay for all 4 years, who transfers, and/or who gets injured.....stuff happens and you have to deal with it.
I'm not saying any of these coaches are better than the other. I'm just saying to look at who had who for how long doesn't mean you put an asterik next to their record
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