Bite the Bullet

[ER3]

the fact is this....no one can say with any certainty where BU would be with TB and SM..good or bad...

I would agree.

[JMM28]

I'm not quite sure why some think that 2 players would make this team world beaters. The caveat before the season was if there was going to be an improvement in record, the bigs had to step up. None of them have so far. JP is about the only one you can make a case for, but his minutes are herkyjerky.

Will Egolf is averaging **** near a foul-out per game in 20 minutes. If he played 35 minutes, he'd need 8 fouls.
AT hasn't done much except block shots and pick up a couple T's.

And this team has only won 5 games against D1 opponents, with only 1 "good" win.

Do Taylor Brown and Sam Maniscalco make that big of a difference? (to get into the top 2 or 3) This team isn't anywhere close to SMS or WSU with or without them.

And I am factoring in the whole idea that #1 becomes #3, etc.

[mrcoachdude]

I'm not quite sure why some think that 2 players would make this team world beaters. The caveat before the season was if there was going to be an improvement in record, the bigs had to step up. None of them have so far. JP is about the only one you can make a case for, but his minutes are herkyjerky.

Will Egolf is averaging **** near a foul-out per game in 20 minutes. If he played 35 minutes, he'd need 8 fouls.
AT hasn't done much except block shots and pick up a couple T's.

And this team has only won 5 games against D1 opponents, with only 1 "good" win.

Do Taylor Brown and Sam Maniscalco make that big of a difference?

I believe they do...reasoning in previous post...them playing puts everyone back in their role and takes pressure off those playing out of position...and AW does not get all that attention he is getting on "D"...

JE playing power forward? not with TB there...I mean really:

1. SM with DSE subbing
2. DD, with JE, DSE
3. AW, with JE subbing and TB moving there with WE and JP in at the 4 and 5
4. TB, playing most of the game..WE spelling him
5. WE and JP....

add in Walt Jr, MK, and AT for a couple minutes....

[dogsrus]

I'm not quite sure why some think that 2 players would make this team world beaters. The caveat before the season was if there was going to be an improvement in record, the bigs had to step up. None of them have so far. JP is about the only one you can make a case for, but his minutes are herkyjerky.

Will Egolf is averaging **** near a foul-out per game in 20 minutes. If he played 35 minutes, he'd need 8 fouls.
AT hasn't done much except block shots and pick up a couple T's.

And this team has only won 5 games against D1 opponents, with only 1 "good" win.

Do Taylor Brown and Sam Maniscalco make that big of a difference? (to get into the top 2 or 3) This team isn't anywhere close to SMS or WSU with or without them.

And I am factoring in the whole idea that #1 becomes #3, etc.

We can argue this point untill the cows come home. Both sides of the argument can make good cases....so to ME it comes down to do we continue to wait/hope for those "what ifs."

And when I say WE I mean the admins....will they give another flyer to JL OR will the fans voices (or lack OF voices) speak loud and clear?

[real fan]

And its going to get worse.....

I am hopeful Jim will realize its time to go and neogiate a buyout.

If he continues to stay he is either not very smart, or doesnt care about this university

I 2nd your motion , We will not be better next season unless Taylor is given the ok to play which is a big if because we will lose our no.1 scorer and gain our point guard which is close to a wash, where has our recruiting been over the last several years?
We never recruited :
Carl Richards Ind. St.
Robo Krepps UIC
Rayvonte Rice Drake
These 3 players all played in Peoria in the state Tour. and all 3 are not only scorers but just overall good players, having the tour. in Peoria only helps if you can evaluate good talent, question if we can because it sure looks like we have quite a few players that are not decent shooters and others that do not rebound.
Anyone else think these players would have helped us?

[BradleyBrave]

I 2nd your motion , We will not be better next season unless Taylor is given the ok to play which is a big if because we will lose our no.1 scorer and gain our point guard which is close to a wash, where has our recruiting been over the last several years?
We never recruited :
Carl Richards Ind. St.
Robo Krepps UIC
Rayvonte Rice Drake
These 3 players all played in Peoria in the state Tour. and all 3 are not only scorers but just overall good players, having the tour. in Peoria only helps if you can evaluate good talent, question if we can because it sure looks like we have quite a few players that are not decent shooters and others that do not rebound.
Anyone else think these players would have helped us?

I know Carl Richard's father, and BU was never really interested.

[real fan]

I know Carl Richard's father, and BU was never really interested.

Exactly, which is why I posted this.

[Lakeview Brave]

Werent Sammy and TB healthy last year? If we had the same results as last year this year then I think most people would still want a change.

We were picked 5th with those guys now if people think we would have been top 3 with them healthy we shouldnt finish 10th without them.

[Grassman]

Werent Sammy and TB healthy last year? If we had the same results as last year this year then I think most people would still want a change.

We were picked 5th with those guys now if people think we would have been top 3 with them healthy we shouldnt finish 10th without them.

Exactly

[theBUer]

Werent Sammy and TB healthy last year? If we had the same results as last year this year then I think most people would still want a change.

Not only that, but we were also in position to contend with JE and JP starting their campaign after taking the RS. Not to mention all the hype surrounding WL Jr., and although there have been some flat games (like the one with ISU Blue) he's been as consistent as you can get for being a frosh.

It's debatable though, because JE has underwhelmed but JP has given me hope that the frontcourt is not all that lost. He really has no supporting cast on that end than compared to the backcourt guys like AW or DD, who seem to carry the offensive load. One guy here posted Egolf leads the nation in fouls per game, can you trust him during crunchtime??

But that is what you come to expect from such a guard-heavy line-up. Warren scores a lot of points (as did DD last night), but he sure takes a lot of shots. Who will be our weapon?

[Guest]

Indiana State

Two members of the Indiana State basketball program spent the day at Manual offering Jeff Stokes a basketball scholarship. How do we let people come in our backyard and get the Peoria kids? First SIU gets Bobo and now they are trying to get Stokes who just got offered from UIC last week..we are horrible recruiters and evaluators of talent.

[ancona flash]

Werent Sammy and TB healthy last year? If we had the same results as last year this year then I think most people would still want a change.

We were picked 5th with those guys now if people think we would have been top 3 with them healthy we shouldnt finish 10th without them.

right on!!!!!

[mrcoachdude]

Werent Sammy and TB healthy last year? If we had the same results as last year this year then I think most people would still want a change.

We were picked 5th with those guys now if people think we would have been top 3 with them healthy we shouldnt finish 10th without them.

exactly??? Really? not even sure what your point here is???

No JP last year....no DD last year...

we were picked 5th....so what...

top three...that is where I thought we would be...but 10th is not where I think we will finish either...