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    Ok so we are playing decent defense...now its time to do something else...run and shoot! 56 points in a half....lets outscore people and quit trying to grind it out....

    I'm just sayin
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    Nice thought but I doubt we are deep enough to be successful at it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by lefty View Post
      Nice thought but I doubt we are deep enough to be successful at it.
      Exactly, and UNI is probably the only team that is slower than us.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
        Ok so we are playing decent defense...now its time to do something else...run and shoot! 56 points in a half....lets outscore people and quit trying to grind it out....

        I'm just sayin
        This team is not built to grind it out plus our defense is really not that good as opposing teams that have any decent shooters have no trouble scoring on us, if we are going to lose might as well make it more interesting for the fans and the players, we fired our last coach because he only wanted to play defense and the scores were in the 50"s .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by real fan View Post
          This team is not built to grind it out plus our defense is really not that good as opposing teams that have any decent shooters have no trouble scoring on us, if we are going to lose might as well make it more interesting for the fans and the players, we fired our last coach because he only wanted to play defense and the scores were in the 50"s .

          of course we fired Albeck for running and playing no defense too..

          We just need to win. Let's face it the 56 point second half was a fluke and the 18 point first half was a bad half.......

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lefty View Post
            of course we fired Albeck for running and playing no defense too..

            We just need to win. Let's face it the 56 point second half was a fluke and the 18 point first half was a bad half.......
            Once Versaces players graduated Albeck was pretty much done because his staff did a lousy job of recruiting,plus supposedly our guys already know how to play defense.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lefty View Post
              of course we fired Albeck for running and playing no defense too..

              We just need to win. Let's face it the 56 point second half was a fluke and the 18 point first half was a bad half.......
              No, what needs to be faced and has yet to be is that we are NOT good at defense!

              Guys game in game out year in year out continue to have career nights against us yet supposedly that's ok and we have to pay more attention to detail...um how about a guy averaging 10ppg scoring 34?!

              Once again, we're not good defensively, and the sooner it takes Les to realize we need to just focus on scoring the basketball, the sooner we should get that W....

              The goal should be 75 points...

              Can anyone tell me what our record would be if we scored even 70 a game?

              10-6


              How about 75?


              12-4 (2-3 in conf.)

              We have allowed 80, 79, 72, 64, and 83 in conference and have yet to play Creighton or Missouri State...

              We need to score some points...our D isn't what is going to win us games...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                No, what needs to be faced and has yet to be is that we are NOT good at defense!

                Guys game in game out year in year out continue to have career nights against us yet supposedly that's ok and we have to pay more attention to detail...um how about a guy averaging 10ppg scoring 34?!

                Once again, we're not good defensively, and the sooner it takes Les to realize we need to just focus on scoring the basketball, the sooner we should get that W....

                The goal should be 75 points...

                Can anyone tell me what our record would be if we scored even 70 a game?

                10-6


                How about 75?


                12-4 (2-3 in conf.)

                We have allowed 80, 79, 72, 64, and 83 in conference and have yet to play Creighton or Missouri State...

                We need to score some points...our D isn't what is going to win us games...
                The fallacy here, though, is that if we score 70 or 75, our defense as you point out is likely to give up 90 or 95.

                I actually think one of the team's strengths is conditioning this year, but if you push the ball, the guys aren't going to have anything left in the tank at the end of the year, and your lack of depth gets magnified.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  No, what needs to be faced and has yet to be is that we are NOT good at defense!

                  Guys game in game out year in year out continue to have career nights against us yet supposedly that's ok and we have to pay more attention to detail...um how about a guy averaging 10ppg scoring 34?!

                  Once again, we're not good defensively, and the sooner it takes Les to realize we need to just focus on scoring the basketball, the sooner we should get that W....

                  The goal should be 75 points...

                  Can anyone tell me what our record would be if we scored even 70 a game?

                  10-6


                  How about 75?


                  12-4 (2-3 in conf.)

                  We have allowed 80, 79, 72, 64, and 83 in conference and have yet to play Creighton or Missouri State...

                  We need to score some points...our D isn't what is going to win us games...
                  !00% correct, players on opposing teams hit career highs in points against our so called good defense, I have been preaching the same thing in that had our offense score 70 or more points a game then this season would not be on the brink of disaster, too many of you have bought in to a system that is completely broken and needs to be fixed, Let"s face it all of you talk about 9 seasons of mediocre basketball yet you want to continue on doing the same things , defense, defense, defense, well the team that scores the most points always wins the game so I say offense, offense and more offense.

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                  • #10
                    whatever it takes to win is fine with me.....we either score more or don't let them score as much as us

                    as the saying goes....if you score you may win...if they never score you will never lose

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lefty View Post
                      whatever it takes to win is fine with me.....we either score more or don't let them score as much as us

                      as the saying goes....if you score you may win...if they never score you will never lose
                      So would you rather see us win 78-72 or 60-54
                      I know winning is the most important, but watching low scoring games is not really exciting plus if you are ever going to compete with the great teams you will need to put up good offensive numbers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by real fan View Post
                        So would you rather see us win 78-72 or 60-54
                        I know winning is the most important, but watching low scoring games is not really exciting plus if you are ever going to compete with the great teams you will need to put up good offensive numbers.

                        I would rather see us win. I would rather see us win 60-54 than lose 78-72.

                        I understand what you are saying but won loss record is what counts, not the score

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by real fan View Post
                          ..... if you are ever going to compete with the great teams you will need to put up good offensive numbers.
                          Originally posted by lefty View Post
                          ......I understand what you are saying but won loss record is what counts, not the score
                          I know you're a "real fan" real fan, but let's not get carried away here. Let's just concentrate on getting that first win before we go gunnin' for those great teams.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by real fan View Post
                            This team is not built to grind it out plus our defense is really not that good as opposing teams that have any decent shooters have no trouble scoring on us, if we are going to lose might as well make it more interesting for the fans and the players, we fired our last coach because he only wanted to play defense and the scores were in the 50"s .
                            I'm with you. Let's have some fun and perhaps the team will respond better if they go there a little loose. We also have to play small ball and the only way to take advantage or lessen your liability is to speed up the tempo. In reality what does this team have to lose?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SFP View Post
                              I'm with you. Let's have some fun and perhaps the team will respond better if they go there a little loose. We also have to play small ball and the only way to take advantage or lessen your liability is to speed up the tempo. In reality what does this team have to lose?

                              I don't have a problem with uptempo play......but when you do if you can't keep up or don't have the depth....you can lose big.....

                              so is it more exciting to play uptempo and lose by 25 or play to win, limit possessions and lose by 5? Either way it's still a loss...but in a close game you have a chance to win at least.

                              I'm guessing if we were scoring 60 a game and our record was 11-5 we wouldn't have this thread.

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