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  • #16
    Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
    Ill be excited about the second half at UNI if it continues into the remaining part of the schedule. If Bradley continues to play with zero positive consistancy then this second half at UNI is just one nice half of basketball.

    Well said.....this is not about ONE 1/2 of hoops but its about the first 5 games. Just like it isn't about this year alone in BU Hoops but about the last 9 years.

    Yes its great they played well but as hb stated...if we don't build on it its just 1/2 of good hoops. I'm sure the MVC will recognize that at the Valley tourney with BU taking home the best half of hoops award.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
      We've reached the point where people don't even deny wanting us to play bad. Now they just flat out admit it.
      Please quote who said they wanted us to play bad....not saying anyone didn't but I just read through this thread 3 times and I didn't read where anyone wants us to "play bad".....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
        Please quote who said they wanted us to play bad....not saying anyone didn't but I just read through this thread 3 times and I didn't read where anyone wants us to "play bad".....
        Yeah - I don't get your statment BnC.

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        • #19
          The thing I am making a point of about last nights 2nd half is about our offense out scoring UNI 56 to 41, I keep hearing defense this and defense that and we cannot go out and try to out score anybody, maybe we are using the wrong approach and should start making our offense top priority as based on the 2nd half performance we can go out and out score teams, 56 points is a lot of points in 20 minutes especially when it is against a team that only gives up 58 a game, a different approach might just at least give us a better chance at winning and after 0-5 what have we got to lose.

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          • #20
            While I didn't see the 2nd half last night, some of you are encouraged by it. This is the same story after the Wichita game, and then we follow it up with a pathetic showing at home to SIU. I see no basis for why we will play well this Wednesday. We see flashes of good/great play this season, but see a totally different team the next game.
            When we put together 2 solid halves, we'll finally get a W. An 0-5 start doesn't give me a good feeling that we'll see that this Wednesday, especially vs. an ISU (blue) team who is playing well now. To my recollection, the Detroit game is the only one we've played 2 solid halves, and we know the result of that one.

            Someone mentioned that we are improving a lot - like DD. But I want to see improvement so that I can take something away for NEXT season. While it's good to see Dodie play decent in 2 straight games, it doesn't make me hopeful about next season - sorry. It's about DSE, JE, WL, JP getting better, as they are a big part of the program the next 2-3 seasons.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by real fan View Post
              The thing I am making a point of about last nights 2nd half is about our offense out scoring UNI 56 to 41, I keep hearing defense this and defense that and we cannot go out and try to out score anybody, maybe we are using the wrong approach and should start making our offense top priority as based on the 2nd half performance we can go out and out score teams, 56 points is a lot of points in 20 minutes especially when it is against a team that only gives up 58 a game, a different approach might just at least give us a better chance at winning and after 0-5 what have we got to lose.
              I'd like to implement Real fan's approach from here on out. What do we have to lose?
              By the way, how did we manage to score 56? Did we have a different offense being run or something? Or did AW and WE just catch and shoot whenever possible?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                I'd like to implement Real fan's approach from here on out. What do we have to lose?
                By the way, how did we manage to score 56? Did we have a different offense being run or something? Or did AW and WE just catch and shoot whenever possible?
                Very good point LB. Why the totally different halves? Did JL stop coaching the 2nd half and the guys just played?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
                  Very good point LB. Why the totally different halves? Did JL stop coaching the 2nd half and the guys just played?
                  I agree and am sick of the "guys aren't buying in on the defensive end" approach....


                  Here's a thought....how about trying to score more and win games...we aren't a great defensive team and don't have much if any real depth...so go with what we have and try to score 75...

                  We'd have a pretty good record if we scored most games and played team ball like we did for 20 minutes last night...


                  Especially in our conference where everyone is seeming to have trouble scoring...basically leaving every single team in games they shouldn't be in...

                  At this point IMO offense > defense and we should get back to just worrying about putting the ball in the basket...

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                  • #24
                    NOT trying to downplay the 2nd half. Anytime you can score that many points you must have been doing some things correctly.

                    As I stated though in agreement with Houston...does this lead BU to something or will it go down as simply a good half of hoops. Weds hopefully well tell us more.

                    What we have all seen many times is when a team gets up big is they start to let up...its only natural. They, many times start to play NOT to lose vs doing what they did in the first half that got them such a lead.

                    So while the rally was nice and I applaud the guys for not quitting could this be attributed to a UNI team that let off the gas a little bit.....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                      Yeah - I don't get your statment BnC.
                      The point is, people were annoyed when we played well. That must mean, for them to be happy, we need to play poorly. Correct?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                        NOT trying to downplay the 2nd half. Anytime you can score that many points you must have been doing some things correctly.

                        As I stated though in agreement with Houston...does this lead BU to something or will it go down as simply a good half of hoops. Weds hopefully well tell us more.

                        What we have all seen many times is when a team gets up big is they start to let up...its only natural. They, many times start to play NOT to lose vs doing what they did in the first half that got them such a lead.

                        So while the rally was nice and I applaud the guys for not quitting could this be attributed to a UNI team that let off the gas a little bit.....

                        I agree...the word consistency comes to mind because in 9 years now I can only recall one stretch of being consistently GOOD while most we've been consistently average or mediocre at best...

                        Like I said before...there is one common denominator in all of this whether some want to admit it or not.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                          The point is, people were annoyed when we played well. That must mean, for them to be happy, we need to play poorly. Correct?
                          If that helps you sleep at night, keep believing that...

                          People are annoyed as you said because they played 20 minutes of a 40 minute game and have done so all year...

                          No consistency at all and little changes to impact the record....


                          That's why people are as you said annoyed

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                            If that helps you sleep at night, keep believing that...

                            People are annoyed as you said because they played 20 minutes of a 40 minute game and have done so all year...

                            No consistency at all and little changes to impact the record....


                            That's why people are as you said annoyed
                            They said it, not me. They said they were annoyed when we played a good second half, insinuating that they would have been happier if we had continued to play poorly. It's their words.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                              I'd like to implement Real fan's approach from here on out. What do we have to lose?
                              By the way, how did we manage to score 56? Did we have a different offense being run or something? Or did AW and WE just catch and shoot whenever possible?
                              Of course, half was Drew with a lot of his 'patented' shot fakes that make defenders look stupid and gets him a bunch of FT's. (Can we please have WE defend Drew in practice until WE never leaves his feet on D?)

                              But, everyone else contributed. We had timely 3's from DSE, DD, JE, and even MK. JP had at least one quality, big time post move... We did actually look like a team playing offense instead of a one trick pony..

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                                They said it, not me. They said they were annoyed when we played a good second half, insinuating that they would have been happier if we had continued to play poorly. It's their words.
                                Are you kidding me? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? You cannot possibly believe this. They were "insinuating that they would have been happier" if they had played that well earlier! They were annoyed with the good second half because it shows the capability of playing really well, and they haven't been doing it. They were annoyed that they played so poorly in the first half when they clearly have the ability to play better. They don't want Bradley to be bad. Come on Eileen!
                                "That is a dangerous game, friendo" -Kevin Malone on "The Office"

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