Indiana State 80-BU 66

[Big Mike]

218? What service? i just checked on Direct TV and it has GoHHD
on ch. 218

comcast

[Grassman]

comcast

Darn, I was hoping Direct TV.

[mrcoachdude]

This team isn't young. Sticks and Egolf are both 4th year players. AW and DD are both 5th year seniors. Prosser is in his 2nd year with the program. DSE, Eastman, and Milos all logged minutes last year. The only newbie where this excuse holds any water is Lemon. Even with the injuries we're one of the oldest, most experienced teams in the league. NEXT EXCUSE!

hey come on now...at least get the stats right....

AW and DD you got right...5th years seniors....

Prosser = 1st year playing
DSE = soph = young
Eastman = soph = young
Milos = soph = young
Sticks is a jr not a 4th year player...
Will is the same as Sticks...playing their 3rd year

2 srs, 2 jrs vs IndSt 3 srs and 4 jrs....compared to them we are young...no excuse...fact..

WSU = 5 srs, 5 jrs . . .

[SFP]

If that were truly the case why bother scouting?

Also, David Robinson wasn't a recruited 'project'. He grew several inches in the Naval Academy.

Even more of a project? He grew 4 inches so it just shows that you can find those jewels.

[BradleyBrave]

hey come on now...at least get the stats right....

AW and DD you got right...5th years seniors....

Prosser = 1st year playing
DSE = soph = young
Eastman = soph = young
Milos = soph = young
Sticks is a jr not a 4th year player...
Will is the same as Sticks...playing their 3rd year

2 srs, 2 jrs vs IndSt 3 srs and 4 jrs....compared to them we are young...no excuse...fact..

WSU = 5 srs, 5 jrs . . .

Spin it all you want, these guys aren't Division I newbies. Now we have to be older than everyone to win? We have one guy on the team who's only a year removed from high school. Everyone else has played against Division I competition for over a year.

I thought we were done with the 'experience' excuse last year...even though it was a fallacy then as well.

[BradleyBrave]

Even more of a project? He grew 4 inches so it just shows that you can find those jewels.

Do you know what a 'project' is?

[Braves4Life]

Spin it all you want, these guys aren't Division I newbies. Now we have to be older than everyone to win? We have one guy on the team who's only a year removed from high school. Everyone else has played against Division I competition for over a year.

I thought we were done with the 'experience' excuse last year...even though it was a fallacy then as well.

MCD gave no excuses BB. He simply corrected your factually wrong and misleading information. Besides, MCD never "spins". I think we know where the spinning tends to come from.

[Braves4Life]

Do you know what a 'project' is?

What? Do you think SFP's a moron, too? Come on BB!! Quit being such a confrontation @_ _! I know this season sux, but COME ON, MAN!

[BradleyBrave]

MCD gave no excuses BB. He simply corrected your factually wrong and misleading information. Besides, MCD never "spins". I think we know where the spinning tends to come from.

What is factually 'wrong' about my post?

Sticks and Egolf are both 4th year players. - TRUE - Should big men in their 4th year at the college level be able to contribute?

AW and DD are both 5th year seniors. - TRUE - Enough said.

Prosser is in his 2nd year with the program. - TRUE - He was one of the more highly regarded recruits we've landed, and has been going against Division I competition for a year. I am fine with his progress.

DSE, Eastman, and Milos all logged minutes last year. - TRUE - All 3 played significant roles at one point last year.

The only newbie where this excuse holds any water is Lemon. - TRUE - Only true freshman on the roster.

Even with the injuries we're one of the oldest, most experienced teams in the league. - TRUE

Everything I said is factual. What is misleading?

[BradleyBrave]

What? Do you think SFP's a moron, too? Come on BB!! Quit being such a confrontation @_ _! I know this season sux, but COME ON, MAN!

No, I don't think he's a moron at all. But David Robinson wasn't a project, and trying to draw some sort of parallel with him and anything going on in our program is silly.

[ph]

Darn, I was hoping Direct TV.

Then you need an antenna and a digital tuner for free over-the-air digital. If you have a DVR You can buy an AM-21 from DirecTv if you want a digital tuner integrated with your guide and DVR functionality..

[Braves4Life]

No, I don't think he's a moron at all. But David Robinson wasn't a project, and trying to draw some sort of parallel with him and anything going on in our program is silly.

13 mpg his freshman year and 7 ppg ....... He sure as he!! wasn't a blue chip.

Regarding Bradley's experience..... I'm not in the mood to get into a p!ssing match with you over semantics. Happy New Year BradleyBrave! Let's hope our Braves start the New Year right on Saturday.

[BradleyBrave]

13 mpg his freshman year and 7 ppg ....... He sure as he!! wasn't a blue chip.

Regarding Bradley's experience..... I'm not in the mood to get into a p!ssing match with you over semantics. Happy New Year BradleyBrave! Let's hope our Braves start the New Year right on Saturday.

In my world a project isn't a guy that scores 7 ppg as a freshman and logs double-digit minutes. 7 ppg is a significant freshman contribution at just about any level.

BU's experience spoke for itself last year, as it does this year. Last year we cited it as a strength prior to the season (it's noted in preseason articles prior to the 2009 season), and was falsely spun into some sort of crutch once BU started losing. A year later, we're trying to say the same thing. If last year's team didn't have experience, and now this year's team doesn't have experience, what's next year's team going to have?

Happy New Year to you as well.

[SFP]

Do you know what a 'project' is?

What? Do you think SFP's a moron, too? Come on BB!! Quit being such a confrontation @_ _! I know this season sux, but COME ON, MAN!

From Wikipedia:

"David Robinson was born August 6, 1965 in Key West, Florida; the second child of Ambrose and Freda Robinson. Since Robinson's father was in the Navy, the family moved many times. After his father retired from the Navy, the family settled in Woodbridge, Virginia, where Robinson excelled in school and in most sports except basketball. He was 5 feet, 9 inches tall in junior high school so he tried his hand at basketball, but soon quit. Robinson attended Osbourn Park High School in Manassas, Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C., where Robinson's father was working as an engineer after retiring from the Navy. By his senior year in high school he was 6 feet, 7 inches tall, but he had not played organized basketball. When the coach added the tall senior to the basketball team, Robinson earned all-area and all-district honors but generated little interest among college basketball coaches. Robinson scored a 1320 on the SAT, and he chose to go to the U.S. Naval Academy, where he majored in mathematics."

Now that is what I call a project!

[SFP]

Hey BB what part of "he did not play organized bball and generated little interest among college basketball coaches, does not mean a PROJECT! I know what a project is! All I ask is that you admit that it is the holiday and a few cocktails got the better of you. I grew up in Maryland and one thing you do growing up there is follow the Maryland teams and their players, just like you do if you grow uo in Illinois. David Robinson is a classic late bloomer even more so then MJ.