NCAA suspends Ohio State football players

[SFP]

How The NCAA treats schools differently is no different then most of societal institutional norms. The more powerful, economically advantage get better treatment. What is there to argue? It has always been this way and unless there is a cultural change, nothing will change. Let's face it the NCAA has little leverage over the big boys and enjoy the economic might they bring.

Dogrus, do you really believe that The NCAA did not treat BU differently then if we were one of their big BCS boys? I believe it is a fact but I also belive we are beating a dead horse on this. There's very little that we can do unless one of us can dictate how The NCAA and the Universities receive their revenue.

[tornado]

but it's the phony pretense of fairness and equality for all NCAA members that they brag about that irks me...
if they're going to be so blatantly unfair and biased, then just save the money & don't even bother to send a field investigator unless she needs a husband...

[dogsrus]

How The NCAA treats schools differently is no different then most of societal institutional norms. The more powerful, economically advantage get better treatment. What is there to argue? It has always been this way and unless there is a cultural change, nothing will change. Let's face it the NCAA has little leverage over the big boys and enjoy the economic might they bring.

Dogrus, do you really believe that The NCAA did not treat BU differently then if we were one of their big BCS boys? I believe it is a fact but I also belive we are beating a dead horse on this. There's very little that we can do unless one of us can dictate how The NCAA and the Universities receive their revenue.

The NCAA was VERY fair in the POB/Star incident. 5 game and probation was not harsh. Thats all I know.

Not close enough to what happens elsewhere to determine if they get preferential treatment.

And you are correct....I don't 'worry" about stuff I have NO control over. You can blog and whine (not you) all you want but it is what it is.

[tornado]

Here's the NCAA's OWN advisory panel recommending 2 years ago for MORE severe penalties....
and one of those recommendations was this...
"Clarified penalties for repeat offenders.... The "death penalty" -- a program-crippling blow ..
Repeat violators are defined as schools that run afoul of the NCAA more than once every five years."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5954489&campaign=rss&source=NCAAHeadlines

Hmmm....let's see -- Ohio State was found to have MAJOR violations and sanctioned in March of 2006!
(definitely WAY less than five years ago!!)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncb&id=2362527

SO -- by NCAA's own definition, Ohio State is guilty of being a repeat violator and should be dealt with very strictly!
Their own panel even mentions the "death penalty"!!!

Ha, ha....yeah...wake me up if they ever get anything more serious than a slap..
if you recall, the extra severe penalty given to Bradley in 2006 actually had the gall to mention Bradley's history in 1986!...so why not recall Ohio State's major violations in 2006?

[TheGuy]

I heard some very interesting commentary about this on the 670 the score and it makes complete sense. Universities make tons of money off of these players by using their names and likeness. They also make them play these games over the holidays keeping them away from their families all so that the Universities can make a buck, yet the NCAA is going to suspend players for trading autographs. Kind of ridiculous no matter what the level of play in college athletics.

I can't make up my mind whether or not I think the NCAA should just be done with it and let Universities pay players. On one hand, it would be the end to this garbage. On the other hand, it could be very damaging competition wise, especially for mids.

[tornado]

Ah ha -- all those who had suspicions the NCAA was playing favorites because it was important to make sure these top players were NOT suspended but would play in the bowl game...
you guys were clearly right...
truth comes out...
Ohio State, the Big Ten, and even the Sugar Bowl CEO clearly lobbied the NCAA
to go easy and make sure they play in the Sugar Bowl..

"Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan had blown that out of the water when he
confirmed everyone’s suspicions and said that not only did he lobby hard for
Pryor and the others to get a reprieve but also that the powers that be
listened to him.

“I made the point that anything that could be done to preserve the integrity
of this year’s (Suga Bowl) game, we would greatly appreciate it,” Hoolahan told the
Columbus Dispatch. “That appeal did not fall on deaf ears.”

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-pryor010311

and even more...one of the Ohio State players, Terrell Pryor, has been caught using freebies many times before yet the NCAA and Ohio State ignored it and looked the other way...
"Pryor had been pulled over by police three times in the last three years driving “loaner” cars from a local used car dealer.."

[lefty]

"Pryor had been pulled over by police three times in the last three years driving “loaner” cars from a local used car dealer.."

You have to watch those car dealers.......maybe the Escalade was in for service

[real fan]

I heard some very interesting commentary about this on the 670 the score and it makes complete sense. Universities make tons of money off of these players by using their names and likeness. They also make them play these games over the holidays keeping them away from their families all so that the Universities can make a buck, yet the NCAA is going to suspend players for trading autographs. Kind of ridiculous no matter what the level of play in college athletics.

I can't make up my mind whether or not I think the NCAA should just be done with it and let Universities pay players. On one hand, it would be the end to this garbage. On the other hand, it could be very damaging competition wise, especially for mids.

These guys get a free education which is worth thousands of dollars, I would say they already are getting paid plus if you give them $200.00 a week who"s to say they don"t get another $100.00 under the table, the cheating would get a lot worse.

[houstontxbrave]

These guys get a free education which is worth thousands of dollars, I would say they already are getting paid plus if you give them $200.00 a week who"s to say they don"t get another $100.00 under the table, the cheating would get a lot worse.

The cheating has gotten to the point it isnt cheating because its completely commonplace and comical. The NCAA has zero credibilty and control and something as blatant as Pryor is becoming so common that I think most are numb to it.

NCAA football and the NCAA need a divorce because what the NCAA brings to the table is worthless.

The only thing the NCAA brings is the comedy relief of trying to actually appear as relavant.

[tornado]

the latest news on the Ohio State NCAA violations, impermissible benefits, and cheating....

Ohio State football Head Coach Jim Tressel has now been proven and admits to knowing all about the illegal sales and benefits and he knew his team was cheating and kept quiet -- never doing a thing about it..
He clearly knew all about it almost a year in advance and helped keep it quiet so the players could go on cheating and making a mockery of the NCAA rules...

this is the definition of loss of institutional control..where the institution and those who represent it have lost control or are actually part of and involved in the cheating...
and yet....

did you see the "self imposed penalty" Ohio State gave Tressel???

a fine ...and he sits out two non-conference cupcake games next year that everyone knows Ohio State will win ...

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2011/03/09/tressel-docked-but-what-does-it-take-for-a-coach-to-get-fired/?cxntfid=blogs_mark_bradley_blog