BU Shooting

[BradleyJD]

Sometimes it's not that the guys are missing shots or free throws but it's HOW they are missing them...I've seen some real bricks thrown up there by guys who are sapposed to be our "good" shooters!

Well that is what is noticeable to me. I guess I am surprised at how poor the shooting is. To me, this isn't even about coaching exactly. I am just shocked at how off our shooting looks.

[thefish7]

I was going to do some complicated analysis on who's replaced TB and SM in the lineup (and may still do that for shooting pct... But if you look at FTs, it's all about missing TB and SM.

In 2009-2010 Bradley took 621 FTs and made 462 for a .744 pct. AW/TB/SM combined for 293 makes out of 346 attempts or a .847 pct. That means those guys took 56% of Bradley's free throws and made 85% of them.

In 2010-2011 Bradley is 117-173 or .676 pct. AW/TB/SM have combined for 56 of 65 or a very impressive .862... Those guys (and two of them aren't playing obviously) actually improved their free throw shooting by a 1% but are now only taking 38% of Bradley's free throws instead of 56%.

Looking another way, here are the numbers for the players other than AW/TB/SM over the two years:
2009-2010 - 169-275 or .615
2010-2011 - 61-108 or .565
So they're a fair amount worse this season compared to last-- but the root cause for your bad FT shooting pct is, hands down, the loss of SM & TB. The rest of the results are what you could expect.

I'm interested to spend some more time on the regular shooting pct and scoring differentials between TB & SM and their replacement players.

[thefish7]

Okay, guess I am the only one who feels D-1 players should be able to make lay-ups and free throws.

I'm not saying I disagree or anything with that statement... But when we talk about the affect of losing TB & SM some things you can directly analyze. FT% and FG% are one of those things. What we can't figure out, directly, anyway, is what the loss of those guys does to things like AW's shooting % since he's more closely guarded now, or what happens to JP or WE because they're playing against a zone because we can't shoot from the outside.

The bunnies frustrate me too, and I've NEVER been able to understand how guys who play basketball all day can't make FTs (lol, even if I can't make FTs hehe) consistently... Just when we can use numbers to understand something, it makes us smart fans to take a look.

[BradleyJD]

I was going to do some complicated analysis on who's replaced TB and SM in the lineup (and may still do that for shooting pct... But if you look at FTs, it's all about missing TB and SM.

In 2009-2010 Bradley took 621 FTs and made 462 for a .744 pct. AW/TB/SM combined for 293 makes out of 346 attempts or a .847 pct. That means those guys took 56% of Bradley's free throws and made 85% of them.

In 2010-2011 Bradley is 117-173 or .676 pct. AW/TB/SM have combined for 56 of 65 or a very impressive .862... Those guys (and two of them aren't playing obviously) actually improved their free throw shooting by a 1% but are now only taking 38% of Bradley's free throws instead of 56%.

Looking another way, here are the numbers for the players other than AW/TB/SM over the two years:
2009-2010 - 169-275 or .615
2010-2011 - 61-108 or .565
So they're a fair amount worse this season compared to last-- but the root cause for your bad FT shooting pct is, hands down, the loss of SM & TB. The rest of the results are what you could expect.

I'm interested to spend some more time on the regular shooting pct and scoring differentials between TB & SM and their replacement players.

Obviously, the loss of TB and SM are playing a factor is BU's season. You make some good points there, however I still am amazed by the numbers.

We have guards like DD, DSE, and WL all shooting under 70% from the line. I guess it just stuns me that guards, of all people, would be poor shooters.

So I understand we are missing players who would help improve our numbers, but the guys actually playing just seem way way off at times.

[thefish7]

Obviously, the loss of TB and SM are playing a factor is BU's season. You make some good points there, however I still am amazed by the numbers.

We have guards like DD, DSE, and WL all shooting under 70% from the line. I guess it just stuns me that guards, of all people, would be poor shooters.

So I understand we are missing players who would help improve our numbers, but the guys actually playing just seem way way off at times.

Yeah I understand when a 7 footer with hands the size of a VW Bus struggles to shoot well, but when guards-- sometimes even good shooters-- struggle with FTs I also find it mistifying.

[ser_solace]

So far, this is a trend, but I think that this goes back to the type of guards we are recruiting.

Trend? This year is an anomaly when I look at it. Really you'd want to throw out '06-'07 as the outlier.

[real fan]

I think a lot of our shooting problems stem from players rushing their shots, the same thing can be said about our free throw shooting, I watch our players step up to the line and not take their time as if they have no routine in how they shoot them, good free throw shooters do the same routine which gives them more concentration when they go to the line, some of our players seem to be in some kind of hurry to shoot them which I believe is a major part of the problem, watch our good free throw shooters and they will do the same thing before each shot, our bad ones shoot in a hurry and follow no routine.