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    Not that it will make anyone feel better, but here is an assessment of the Salukis from their board (from what I am told this is one of their better and most rational posters).

    Coaching--F.


    Players--D (to some extent, they have competed hard and tried to share the basketball and play the goofy defense that Lowery is trying to teach to a substandard group of newcomers, leftovers and never was'


    Captain Mitchell---Glad he's a Saluki. Local has played hard when on the floor and appears to be a very nice credit to SIU going forward. Actually played some meaningful minutes against Chicago St as Drinkard apparently hasn't coached himself up to whatever standard today is. Can't play at this level or any D1 level for any amount of time, but he tries.


    Freeman--Does the most on the floor to contain another team and share the basketball. Doesn't take bad shots. He just isn't blessed with much athleticism and it doesn't allow him to shine brighter. Should be playing 25-33 mins a game for this team. SIU is better with John on the floor.


    Crowder--The typical JC get. Where Freeman shines, Crowder is mistake prone, lost on both ends and only excels when a play completely falls apart. Luckily, he found the right outfit. So far, he hasn't quit on the team and even when he sits for long stretches, like yesterday, he comes in trying to help and stays positive on the bench. I'm not sure if yesterday was a discipline or practice issue, but there was clear intention to DNP Jack until Justin went completely off the charts awful. Jack can't handle, shoot, move his feet or pass well, but he is a nice offensive rebounder. Total tweener.


    The Senior--Show pony and an utter disappointment.


    Bocot--Wow. One of my favorite Salukis during this horrific run, but it looks like the lack of progression kids make under this staff has caught up to the wiry wing. His shot is completely broke. I don't know if he works at it enough, but it needs a good two weeks in the shop/garage/gym. It has affected every emotional edge he had given himself as a player. He isn't sharing the ball well, isn't guarding hard and its so glaring even our staff has figured it out.


    Seck--Very lucky find as he has a constant motor and gregarious personality that shows itself on and off the floor. No true position which is why he fell into SIU's lap. He is a good rebounder and has strong hands. He doesn't shoot well and can be overpowered by size and elite athleticism, but if SIU is to avoid Thursday or make any improvements, its because he wills others to join his cause.


    Cleveland--Not a division one player at this point. I guess I always wondered how Dave McGlowan would of done running the sweet 16 Salukis. Virtually any positive play he has had has come from a freaky bounce or an utter breakdown. Has no confidence on either end of the court and is unlikely to shoot an open shot from anywhere outside of 5 feet. Given he is 6'0", he isn't shooting much. May be as poor a passer as KBS. Startling how poor he is in all on the floor areas. Hope it gets better or eye doctors are gonna do big winter business in so Ill.


    Troy Hudson Long--A true JUCO gunner. An artist of the SIC variety. Undersized, under athletic, not shy about shooting and he will win us a couple of games in the MVC when he gets up a dozen shots and makes half of them. Can't handle, guard, pass or save this production.


    Teague--Complete regression in every way every Lowery era player has. Got in good shape to start the year, but that has kind of slipped. Doesn't run hard very often. Refuses to rotate on defense or put his rear on someone to clear a board. His postgame is in shambles. Turns the wrong way more often then not, travels, very slow decision making. Looks like he has never been coached. I see very little upside at this point,with this staff. A rededication to getting better would do Gene well.


    Cousin of Coach--Ill cuzzn looked good against Purdue. He has looked terrible before and after. He'd be a top flight OVC point guard and can contribute as a complimentary 4th or 5th guard in the MVC. Good thing the thinking was to run KD off and get this kid on the floor for 30 plus. Looks like his confidence comes and goes with the wind. Foul prone like most Salukis. Can't shoot. Really tries to push a positive agenda which is admirable.


    Air Jordan--Very low level D1 player at best. Just can't move. Has an odd looking body. He's in better shape this year, but still not very good shape. Not sure what that issue is. Certainly this staff has already proven it would have no idea or intention of using him.


    Diamond--Hope you're an All-American


    Drinkard--I see flashes of athleticism, toughness that make me think we got a steal. Very strong and if he can get it done in the weight room, he'll be a physical beast as an upperclassmen. Already botched the redshirt and now botching using him in ultra important games against Chicago St,etc. Run son, run.


    This season should never of been allowed to be a continuance of the Chris Lowery era. It is an absolute joke.

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    Just because most of the rest of the league is bad, doesn't give us license to be.

    BU should never be bad. And when we are likely to not be competitive in the Valley in a year like this, only makes our ineptitude more glaring.

    Which is why the whole notion of "Golly gee whiz, but the league is so strong" nonsense is nonsense.

    If you're not leading, simply put, you're not leading.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
      Just because most of the rest of the league is bad, doesn't give us license to be.

      BU should never be bad. And when we are likely to not be competitive in the Valley in a year like this, only makes our ineptitude more glaring.

      Which is why the whole notion of "Golly gee whiz, but the league is so strong" nonsense is nonsense.

      If you're not leading, simply put, you're not leading.
      That is what the biggest disappointment to me is, with Sam and a healthy Taylor this team could have challenged for the championship, now we most likely finish 5th to 10th, feel bad for our 2 seniors in Andrew and Dodie as they are playing as well as expected but can only do so much.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by real fan View Post
        That is what the biggest disappointment to me is, with Sam and a healthy Taylor this team could have challenged for the championship, now we most likely finish 5th to 10th, feel bad for our 2 seniors in Andrew and Dodie as they are playing as well as expected but can only do so much.
        At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you, but now I don't think with a healthy Sam and TB we would have contended. I see too many deficiencies with the rest of the roster. Top 3-4? Maybe. But the talent just isn't there to compete for a championship IMO.
        Onward and Upward!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
          At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you, but now I don't think with a healthy Sam and TB we would have contended. I see too many deficiencies with the rest of the roster. Top 3-4? Maybe. But the talent just isn't there to compete for a championship IMO.
          I'm the same way. I really thought this team had a chance for a top three prior to the loss of SM and TB. But now it's obvious to me that there just isn't much there once you get past AW. There's a reason that those who cover the Valley voted BU 5th even before the injuries.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
            At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you, but now I don't think with a healthy Sam and TB we would have contended. I see too many deficiencies with the rest of the roster. Top 3-4? Maybe. But the talent just isn't there to compete for a championship IMO.
            I will take a slight exception. At the end of the day, perhaps we wouldn't have contended, but I think we would have been in the mix.

            But lack of depth always catches up with you.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
              At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you, but now I don't think with a healthy Sam and TB we would have contended. I see too many deficiencies with the rest of the roster. Top 3-4? Maybe. But the talent just isn't there to compete for a championship IMO.
              can NOT agree with this statement...but you are entitled to your opinion...

              Your taking the two best players out...leaving AW who has a target on his back and now taking guys that were needed as roll players and changing the rolls...with TB and SM healthy...everything changes back...but like yours, its just my opinion...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
                I will take a slight exception. At the end of the day, perhaps we wouldn't have contended, but I think we would have been in the mix.

                But lack of depth always catches up with you.
                I take exception also, you add 2 scorers and 1 point guard plus our best rebounder and we are in the mix.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                  can NOT agree with this statement...but you are entitled to your opinion...

                  Your taking the two best players out...leaving AW who has a target on his back and now taking guys that were needed as roll players and changing the rolls...with TB and SM healthy...everything changes back...but like yours, its just my opinion...
                  Sammy was never going to be "healthy"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
                    I will take a slight exception. At the end of the day, perhaps we wouldn't have contended, but I think we would have been in the mix.

                    But lack of depth always catches up with you.
                    I just can't see a team contending with so many deficiencies inside. I don't think TB's presence would have made Will Egolf into a legitimate post player. I don't think Sammy's presence would have made Dyricus more of a threat. I think we'd have improved a bit on our mark last year, but not to the point of winning a title. However, the league is perhaps as weak as it's been in years, so who knows. Kind of a moot point right now.
                    Onward and Upward!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
                      Sammy was never going to be "healthy"
                      yeh hear you there....but still..removing him from the lineup takes a roll player and makes him something else....
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                      • #12
                        It appears that BU's biggest obstacle to success this year was a lack of depth at point guard. I did not take this into account when I originally viewed BU as a sure thing for a top 3 MVC team. I think had SM stayed healthy (and fresh) all year and if TB was in the lineup BU would have been in the top 3. However, the reality is now that this team had a glaringly large hole that was a ticking time bomb (that exploded) -- we had NO back-up at the point guard/leadership position.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Disturbed View Post
                          I'm the same way. I really thought this team had a chance for a top three prior to the loss of SM and TB. But now it's obvious to me that there just isn't much there once you get past AW. There's a reason that those who cover the Valley voted BU 5th even before the injuries.
                          I have to completely agree...we were destined towards another season under Les of not being in the top 4 in the Valley even BEFORE the injury bug bit-- I can only hope our AD can see this and is busy quietly working behind the scenes seeking and recruiting new leadership for next season for BU.
                          Bradley football--undefeated again this year

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                          • #14
                            we would have been in the top 4 if we had SM TB.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                              we would have been in the top 4 if we had SM TB.
                              Top 4 still isn't progress, and this was supposed to be a 'culmination' year.

                              Let's keep in mind right now we have 2 4th year bigs on the roster (Egolf and Thompson), and 2 5th year seniors starting (Warren and Dunson), and we're this bad.
                              Onward and Upward!

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