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  • #31
    Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
    My two favorites as well. I absolutely loved and adored Stowell (no homo ). In my opinion he is one of the best pure coaches and leaders of men anywhere and of all time.
    I got to talk basketball with him on a couple occasions and he was extremely knowledgeable and valued all the things I do. The players who do the little things, who hustle and outwork everyone else. He has a great career, if only he could have recruited a little bit better he really could have been regarded as an all-time great by people outside of BU.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by amckillip View Post
      He has a great career, if only he could have recruited a little bit better he really could have been regarded as an all-time great by people outside of BU.
      True, but he had the deck stacked against him as far as university resources. Squirrel is a great resource for knowledge on this topic. Stowell had very little to work with as far as recruiting budget, support from the administration, etc. and was known as always getting the most out of what little talent he had. His dismissal as head coach had some folks sour, with him being an alum and a member of one of our greatest teams. But it was the right thing for the university and program at the time, we were and are better for hiring Dick Versace to replace him. Kind of ironic that we're kind of stuck in the same spot with an alum right now.
      Onward and Upward!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
        True, but he had the deck stacked against him as far as university resources. Squirrel is a great resource for knowledge on this topic. Stowell had very little to work with as far as recruiting budget, support from the administration, etc. and was known as always getting the most out of what little talent he had. His dismissal as head coach had some folks sour, with him being an alum and a member of one of our greatest teams. But it was the right thing for the university and program at the time, we were and are better for hiring Dick Versace to replace him. Kind of ironic that we're kind of stuck in the same spot with an alum right now.
        I don't think the two are really all that comparable, though there are definite parallels. No offense to JL, I like him as a guy, and people generally classify me as a 'JL-apologist' (despite my remarks this year), but I don't think JL is the coach that Stowell was, nor has he given nearly as much to the university, and that is not an insult to JL in anyway. This is only conjecture, as I wasn't even born when he was replaced, but that's what I have gathered in my time following BU and serving on a few committees in which I interacted with Coach Stowell.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
          True, but he had the deck stacked against him as far as university resources. Squirrel is a great resource for knowledge on this topic. Stowell had very little to work with as far as recruiting budget, support from the administration, etc. and was known as always getting the most out of what little talent he had. His dismissal as head coach had some folks sour, with him being an alum and a member of one of our greatest teams. But it was the right thing for the university and program at the time, we were and are better for hiring Dick Versace to replace him. Kind of ironic that we're kind of stuck in the same spot with an alum right now.
          JS is a great guy, and a loyal alum, but I wasn't one of the ones soured when he was let go. No MVC titles along with a below .500 record in the MVC in 13 seasons. Don't think JL would last that long.
          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
            True, but he had the deck stacked against him as far as university resources. Squirrel is a great resource for knowledge on this topic. Stowell had very little to work with as far as recruiting budget, support from the administration, etc. and was known as always getting the most out of what little talent he had. His dismissal as head coach had some folks sour, with him being an alum and a member of one of our greatest teams. But it was the right thing for the university and program at the time, we were and are better for hiring Dick Versace to replace him. Kind of ironic that we're kind of stuck in the same spot with an alum right now.
            Very much agree with your assessment BradleyBrave. Stowell's dismissal was basically what happens to most college coaches in which a university wants to take the program in a different direction. My one main wish was that Stowell been given the resources etc that Versace received during DV's tenure.

            Originally posted by amckillip View Post
            I don't think the two are really all that comparable, though there are definite parallels. No offense to JL, I like him as a guy, and people generally classify me as a 'JL-apologist' (despite my remarks this year), but I don't think JL is the coach that Stowell was, nor has he given nearly as much to the university, and that is not an insult to JL in anyway. This is only conjecture, as I wasn't even born when he was replaced, but that's what I have gathered in my time following BU and serving on a few committees in which I interacted with Coach Stowell.
            To be honest, I don't think that you and BradleyBrave are very far apart with your opinions. As you stated on another post on this thread, Stowell has a vast knowledge of college basketball and if you get him talking on the subject, it is very entertaining to listen to his opinions. I remember when I was a kid and my Dad asked Stowell to compare Squeaky Melchiorre to Bob Cousey. That conversation lasted about a half hour to 45 minutes and was truly incredible!
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bradleybrave View Post
              now it's a p-ssing contest regarding donations and age. Oh my. I'm staying out of this one!
              lol
              "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
              ??” Thomas Jefferson
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              • #37
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                True, but he had the deck stacked against him as far as university resources. Squirrel is a great resource for knowledge on this topic. Stowell had very little to work with as far as recruiting budget, support from the administration, etc. and was known as always getting the most out of what little talent he had. His dismissal as head coach had some folks sour, with him being an alum and a member of one of our greatest teams. But it was the right thing for the university and program at the time, we were and are better for hiring Dick Versace to replace him. Kind of ironic that we're kind of stuck in the same spot with an alum right now.
                I understood why he was let go and had no problem with it at the time, his teams competed against a lot better competition in the conference back then and were virtually impossible to beat at home, pretty much the reason why Louisville quit playing us at home once they left the conf; I never ever remember watching one of his teams have trouble scoring the basketball, in my opinion he would be getting a lot more out of our post players this season since 2 of them have been here a long time.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                  You (OOB) are now the one and only poster here for whom I have absolutely ZERO respect.
                  Man, I thought it was ME....

                  Hang in their AMC, these are the times that try fans' souls!
                  BUilding for the Future

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                    Man, I thought it was ME....

                    Hang in their AMC, these are the times that try fans' souls!
                    Haha, we do bump heads a lot but that has nothing to do with how much I respect someone. We're that the case I wouldn't respect the majority of this board!
                    Last edited by amckillip; 12-07-2010, 12:26 PM.

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                    • #40
                      amckillip,

                      Give OOB a snickers. He will be ok.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Out of Balance View Post
                        Does Eastman know how to work to get himself open to take a shot! He does not even look like he's looking for a shot Milos doesn't get a chance to really play When he does get in, if he miss's a shot, fouls or does anything that gives JL a reason in his book to pull him, he's OUT of THERE Jimmy did it with DA! If these guys are truly, shooters, then they need to play more and get into their shooting rhythm I agree with real fan, in that the bigs need to have a touch each procession, to look to score or pass back out! Can't establish any type of O if you don't have a inside/outside game If AW don't get some help and he remains the only focus of other teams, we maybe looking at another lost player to a injury
                        And if you are looking for DSE to be a scorer, not going to happen And playing Woods for what ever reason and not playing MK and JE is not even explainable, Lord Have Mercy If this continues they need to be looking to play else where next year
                        How many points can/will JK and JE score from the pine
                        I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you on MK. I loved MK last year and wondered why he didn't get more playing time. After watching him play this year, I know why. He's not playing at a DI level. He's only really gotten significant PT against Loyola Marymount and Texas A&M-Kingsville. In those 2 games he shot a combined 1-8 (all 3s), 1-2 (FT), 7 RB, 1 Assist, 3 TO, in 35 minutes. A "scorer/shooter" essentially scored 4 points with starter minutes against inferior teams. He definitely plays hard, but he's either not ready to play at this level or doesn't have the talent. MK just looks lost and doesn't appear to have confidence. That could change with more PT, but the coaches probably see more potential from other players.
                        I can do all things through pasta, which strengthens me.

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                        • #42
                          I stopped questioning JL's choice of players since the Matt Salley days. JL for the most part puts the best players on the floor that can compete. Does he always play them the way I would like him to? No, but the right guys are on the ones he plays.
                          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                          • #43
                            Every time I read the title of this thread I think of 'Hips Don't Lie' by Shakira. That's a much more pleasant thought I think.
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                              Every time I read the title of this thread I think of 'Hips Don't Lie' by Shakira. That's a much more pleasant thought I think.

                              Hmmm....can she play PG?




                              I see this thread going all over now

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by lefty View Post
                                Hmmm....can she play PG?




                                I see this thread going all over now
                                Anything that distracts us from the state of the BU Hoops program right now is a good thing in my mind.

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