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    Utah post-game
    Negatives:
    Man that was a tough game to watch. Execution was just awful. The offense was not executable with the personnel playing. There was literally no offense being played, and our lack of point guard play was absolutely glaring. 4 assists is an amazing statistic and 19 turnovers isn't exactly a good number. For the first time in a while, I couldn't get "up" for the last few minutes of the game, even when BU brought it kind of close (I did stick it out though-- no early exit for me).

    Positives:
    Andrew Warren was essentially incredible, and not only that but sometimes his body language made me think he's about to step into the vacant role of emotional leader that our team really needs. I also thought that for the most part, the effort and desire was there even if the execution wasn't.

    Duke pre-game
    Outlook: There's pretty much no way I can see Bradley winning this game. Anything is always possible with good luck, but Duke is obviously talented, well coached, and the few times I've seen them play this season, executing at a high level. Before Maniscalco went down I was going to be advocating playing small (4 guards) against Duke-- Playing Duke's game against Duke wouldn't give us as much chance as I thought a gimmicky offense and some good luck shooting might give us. That's impossible now though, as decimated as the roster is.

    What to get out of this game: Outside of the 0.01% chance we have at winning, gut out best play you can manage with an eye to working out the kinks in what has to be Bradley's new offensive and defensive schemes. That means lots of minutes with DSE at point and two "bigs" on the floor at once, and in my opinion lots of deliberate half court offense. Defensively, continue to try to make that transition to a gutty, gritty defensive squad intent on scrambling for the ball. Floor Burn U and what not.

    Beyond Duke
    After the Duke game BU has an extended time off period. It's the first real breather of the season and the coaching staff must use it to remake this team given our new constraints. The Valley appears to be in disarray, and below are what I think is required for Bradley to turn this ship around. I think if you succeed in most of these, you stand a chance at doing some damage in conference play.

    1. Get away from "crutch" of 4-guard play. You no longer have the personnel for this to work at any level (let alone the levels we managed to get out of it in the last couple of seasons). This requires a plan that sees two of our post players on the court at all times. Jake Eastman just cannot contribute at the 4 position, especially when the other big is probably undersized. Get away from "four out" offense into a high-low post scheme dependent on two bigs controlling the paint with screens away from the ball. This is necessary because you no longer have the manpower (with 5 scholarship guards) for 4-guard play-- and I also don't think your remaining talent at guard is sufficient for any sort of convincing 4-guard play.

    2. Find an answer at Point guard. This is absolutely critical. I'm a believer in DSE as your best chance here, but so far he hasn't been convincing in that role. Other options probably include DD and JE, and maybe even WLJr. I still think DSE gives you your best option here, as a combination of handling, strength, and passing. He's playing WAY too fast, but that's what you have to figure out between Duke and Dec 20. If DSE can't handle it, then you have to find someone else.

    3. Find a leader. The team is clearly foundering a bit with two of their best three players out with injuries and one of them the clear heart of the team. Someone else has to stand up and take that mantle, and it has to be one of the starters... AW is my best bet.

    4. Jake Eastman (or other). We need another scoring threat, particularly on the outside. DSE and DD aren't confident in their outside shot (and neither has JE appeared to be). Jake came to Bradley as a prolific HS scorer, who I believe was a very good outside shooter (and with an NBA assistant for a father known for teaching shooting). He is NOT going to ever be a serviceable PF, so quit wasting time with that. If Jake can help us bust a zone, some of those drives from DSE and DD won't look so bad. We keep running screens for Jake but he never puts the ball up, that's got to change if he's going to be a contributor.

    5. Andrew Davis? It looks like they're trying to redshirt him... With the hits to the roster and the fact that MK appears like he's never going to get it, you need to think about putting this guy on the floor. I would rather see a poor performing AD (or AT for that matter) playing in the post than JE being completely overmatched at the position.

    Outlook: I think if you get these things done, you might position yourself well for good play in the MVC. I can forgive our current state of disarray if our coach shows he can adapt his schemes to our personnel, rather than the other way around. The Duke game probably won't look good, so I'm going to pre-forgive whatever that performance looks like, but I need to see a better looking Bradley team come Dec 20. GO BRAVES!
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    Last I looked, we (BU) stand at 4-4, looking at 4-5.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
      Last I looked, we (BU) stand at 4-4, looking at 4-5.
      An incisive, thoughtful post.
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      • #4
        Good analysis. I don't disagree with much of anything here. I also think we need JP or WE to step up and become a physical presence inside. I genuinely want a Matt Salley, Zach Andrews type JUCO next year (yeah, yeah, yeah scholarships, I'm dreaming here!) to come in and give us 5 ppg and 6 rpg in 25 minutes. We really need some of that Yuba-type toughness and agressiveness. Harris might be it, but I want it out of a true 4.

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        • #5
          A very honest look at where the Braves are now. I would add, however, that Jake is a player that we're having a problem finding a spot for. He's not quick enough, nor handles the ball well enough, to be in one of the guard spots. He's just not big enough to handle one of the front line spots, albeit he will give his all to attempt it.

          I believe that Milos is where we have to look. He might have some defensive liabilities, but if he can get his shot going, he would open up the interior for drives from Dyricus, Walt, Dodie and Andrew. Let's put him in there and see what happens.

          Additionally, we need some sort of inside presence. It was pointed out in another thread that Will, Jordan and Anthony had a total of five points against Utah - and all of those were by Will. Put two of the three in from the start, with the third one rotating for the other two, and let's see if we can get an operable inside game going.

          Finally, ditch the four guard offense. It hasn't worked well to this point and, with plenty of tape for our opponents to see, it isn't going to work over the course of the remainder of the season. It's time for some players over 6' 6" to become the players we believe they can be.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RaiderOfBradley View Post
            A very honest look at where the Braves are now. I would add, however, that Jake is a player that we're having a problem finding a spot for. He's not quick enough, nor handles the ball well enough, to be in one of the guard spots. He's just not big enough to handle one of the front line spots, albeit he will give his all to attempt it.
            I think Jake's relatively serviceable at our 3 position from a quickness and handling standpoint. He also looks like he's kind of a plus passer. If he can shoot I'd LOVE to see it.

            I think Milos I've personally see enough. It's not just how bad he looks on D, he looks bad in the offense too and pretty much only seems good for jacking up outside shots. He doesn't seem (to me at least) to make good decisions or handle the ball or pass well.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
              Good analysis. I don't disagree with much of anything here. I also think we need JP or WE to step up and become a physical presence inside. I genuinely want a Matt Salley, Zach Andrews type JUCO next year (yeah, yeah, yeah scholarships, I'm dreaming here!) to come in and give us 5 ppg and 6 rpg in 25 minutes. We really need some of that Yuba-type toughness and agressiveness. Harris might be it, but I want it out of a true 4.
              Harris is a true 4! According to Coach Corn the kid has a motor that never stops. I just hope his 2+ years of not playing active hoops does not take a beating on his skills.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SFP View Post
                Harris is a true 4! According to Coach Corn the kid has a motor that never stops. I just hope his 2+ years of not playing active hoops does not take a beating on his skills.
                I REALLY hope you're right, and I have never not loved a Yuba kid we've gotten, so maybe that bodes well.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thefish7 View Post

                  2. Find an answer at Point guard. This is absolutely critical. I'm a believer in DSE as your best chance here, but so far he hasn't been convincing in that role. Other options probably include DD and JE, and maybe even WLJr. I still think DSE gives you your best option here, as a combination of handling, strength, and passing. He's playing WAY too fast, but that's what you have to figure out between Duke and Dec 20. If DSE can't handle it, then you have to find someone else.

                  Great thoughtful post fish. However, I disagree with putting DSE at PG. I'd like to see BU keep our key players at their natural positions and start a PG that is a true PG. From what I understand Woods is that answer. As long as he can handle the pressure and make smart decisions we do not need him to score. He can be a "pass first" PG that distributes the ball to our scorers -- AW, DSE, and WE. It is my hope that this kid can be a "great American success story" as a walk-on and lead BU to a respectable season. Lord knows the kid is smart, and he got the job done in high school.

                  By putting Woods at the PG we can run the system (as bad as some think it may be) that the players are familiar with. DSE, AW, and WE can continue to play where they are accustomed to playing and focus on scoring. I really see no other hope for this team. My biggest fear is that by playing DSE at PG we will destroy him as a player.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SFP View Post
                    Harris is a true 4! According to Coach Corn the kid has a motor that never stops. I just hope his 2+ years of not playing active hoops does not take a beating on his skills.
                    I may be crazy but I'll bet his skills after sitting 2 years are better then some of our bigs now. I do think in time JP will be very serviceable. Just hope it comes soon.
                    Last edited by wily coyote; 12-07-2010, 06:09 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                      I may be crazy but I'll bet his skills after sitting 2 years is better then some of our bigs now. I do think in time JP will be very serviceable. Just hope it comes soon.
                      I want to argue with this, but I can't in good conscience. After what I've seen this year, there is a solid chance you're correct.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                        I may be crazy but I'll bet his skills after sitting 2 years is better then some of our bigs now. I do think in time JP will be very serviceable. Just hope it comes soon.
                        Probably true, but when it comes to needing bigs we BU fans are like hungry people grocery shopping, anything on the shelves look good. I sure hope Harris is the real deal.

                        At this point anything will be an upgrade in the post, but I'm hoping we can find a solution yet this year. I think WE at some point has to call the proctologist and extract the head from backside and turn it on. Plus, JP will be fine. He's got good hands and decent hand/eye coordination. He seems coachable and has a decent Bball IQ. Just a freshman playing under tough circumstances, he'll get better. Get a decent 5 minutes a game from AT and MK and we should have something to work with.

                        It sounds so easy, why is it so tough to achieve?!?!?!?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                          I may be crazy but I'll bet his skills after sitting 2 years is better then some of our bigs now. I do think in time JP will be very serviceable. Just hope it comes soon.
                          Coach Corn says he has better overall basketball skills then Zack or Boogie, he should know and he will come in more mature then any other sophomore.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                            Great thoughtful post fish. However, I disagree with putting DSE at PG. I'd like to see BU keep our key players at their natural positions and start a PG that is a true PG. From what I understand Woods is that answer. As long as he can handle the pressure and make smart decisions we do not need him to score. He can be a "pass first" PG that distributes the ball to our scorers -- AW, DSE, and WE. It is my hope that this kid can be a "great American success story" as a walk-on and lead BU to a respectable season. Lord knows the kid is smart, and he got the job done in high school.

                            By putting Woods at the PG we can run the system (as bad as some think it may be) that the players are familiar with. DSE, AW, and WE can continue to play where they are accustomed to playing and focus on scoring. I really see no other hope for this team. My biggest fear is that by playing DSE at PG we will destroy him as a player.
                            I think DSE is a point guard first. He played point in HS, and played some decent point for us last season. He has the skills that I like in a point guard-- quick first step, good strength, good handles, good passing. SOMETIMES, he shows good vision. He's struggling with decision making and commanding the offense now, and he lacks an outside shot that I'd like a PG to have.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by thefish7 View Post
                              I think DSE is a point guard first. He played point in HS, and played some decent point for us last season. He has the skills that I like in a point guard-- quick first step, good strength, good handles, good passing. SOMETIMES, he shows good vision. He's struggling with decision making and commanding the offense now, and he lacks an outside shot that I'd like a PG to have.
                              DSE was Washington"s point guard with M.Roth the shooting guard his jr. season in high school, he led them to state and he was our back up point guard last season and did a good job , he is a better shooter then most people believe, just like everyone else he needs open looks in order to be successful.

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