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  • #16
    Maybe someone should just start an anti-PJS board......then they can bash away...

    People can read whatever they want to in an article. That gets proven after just about each one.

    I don't love the paper but I don't hate them either. I'm not sure why people think there has to be a "agenda" to everything written in it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
      Are you saying they are a certain Sweet 16 team? Because you seem to be forgetting that Bradley has played a number of Sweet 16 teams at home in just the past few years (SIU, WSU, UNI, as well as Butler).
      This is ludicrous. You're not even comparing the same YEARS, yet alone the same caliber of competition. Let me break it down for you...EIU is a ohio valley bottom feeder who turned around after beating us and prompty lost by 26 to SOUTH DAKOTA ST!!!! They are routinely sub 300 in RPI, they are AMONG THE WORST IN D 1!!! WE LOST TO THEM!!!!! AT HOME!!!!!! Who cares who we had out. Our bench should have beat them. The PJS was kind in those remarks. Anyone who witnessed the game I'm sure had far worse things to say. This may be the worst comparison thread I've ever seen on this board. Please stop.

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      • #18
        It's a red herring. Stay focused on the issue at hand.

        For those who don't know what a red herring is, here you go.

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        • #19
          This thread is funny, but not in a ha-ha sorta way funny. I mean, the fact is that the higher-ups (and even the regular users) who are critical towards the PJS start threads and post links to articles from that same paper that they think is drinking some haterade for the Braves.

          Another thing is that folks here tend to rip the PJS because they simply reprint "message board material."

          For instance:



          BUT, the flip side is that a poster here cannot "scoop" something unless they reveal their Rolodex of sources. You pretty much leave it up to the PJ Star, and BF's is outscooped all because the mods here think the players/coaches need to be protected. It's all common sense, honestly.

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          • #20


            Da Coach -- you see how you start a topic that's clearly about the disparity in the way the PJS covers BU vs. how they cover other teams...

            then NOT ONE response sticks to that idea...and every one of them try to argue that UNLV is actually a pretty good team.....something you yourself actually stated right from the start!

            If someone is gonna try to say Da Coach is wrong in his assessment, then show an example of BU getting beat by 30, that the OPJS covers positively and doesn't rip on the Braves tanking it......


            BTW -- ISU was 4-24 on 3-pointers (JW 0-5)..
            to go 33-117 as a team - 28% (JW 22%)....against the weakest schedule among Valley members!
            And we thought our guys were shooting bad...
            and remember the predictions of how Justin Clark was going to be a far different player and a great 3-pt shooter after last year's 18%...
            This year he's at 6-28, 21%...so he is better...

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            • #21
              How about we don't suck and then we can have this discussion? Just a thought.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                I thought I saw some black helicopters circling this morning....
                ???We all want Bradley to win. If our methods and visions for that are different, then so be it. Don't ever attempt to tell me I am not a fan!???

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                  How about we don't suck and then we can have this discussion? Just a thought.

                  Interesting point! You must be one of the pro PJStar crowd... lol
                  ???We all want Bradley to win. If our methods and visions for that are different, then so be it. Don't ever attempt to tell me I am not a fan!???

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                    How about we don't suck and then we can have this discussion? Just a thought.
                    we still get bad writeups even when we don't suck and in the offseason when we're not even playing...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                      It's a red herring. Stay focused on the issue at hand.

                      For those who don't know what a red herring is, here you go.

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                      Do you think that "ISU can't pull upset" is an accurate headline for a 31 point home loss?
                      Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                      ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                        I happen to agree with you about this DC. I just ran across a copy of the PJS at my place of work and the headline at the top of the front page reads:

                        "ISU CAN'T PULL UPSET"

                        and then in much smaller print:

                        "No. 24 UNLV easily handles Illinois State 82-51. PAGE D1"

                        ISU can't pull upset... Is that an accurate headline for a team that lost by 31 points at home? When I first saw that headline on the front page, I thought that ISU gave UNLV a game at home.... smh If this was a Bradley loss, the headlines would have been much more sarcastic. Also,not trying to bash the Birds here, but while we lost to EIU, ISU has a loss against UALR.
                        I agree as well......that first headline seems much more appropriate for our 5-point home loss to Michigan State. isu was nowhere close to pulling an upset last night!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                          Do you think that "ISU can't pull upset" is an accurate headline for a 31 point home loss?
                          I think this is an instance where we don't care about other teams.
                          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                            Do you think that "ISU can't pull upset" is an accurate headline for a 31 point home loss?
                            I don't really care what the headline is. They lost by 31.
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #29
                              I think we're worrying about the wrong things. As a former journalist and a longtime BU fan, I think the PJStar coverage of Bradley is perfectly fair. Dave Reynolds is extremely evenhanded in his coverage of the team. Very professional.

                              The Wessler columns shouldn't even enter into the discussion if we're discussing fairness because they are columns - they are opinions. If Wessler cared about ISU - and I'm sure he does not - you can bet he'd be writing columns skewering the team. And much of the PJS audience doesn't care about ISU hoops either, at least compared with how they feel about BU.

                              Bradley has had some tough luck early on as a team but the fact is that a team is more than two guys and the team, as a whole, has struggled thus far. I'd be disappointed if Wessler did not take the Braves to task. Offering opinions is his JOB and it is hard to disagree with what he write after the EIU loss.

                              For those who state that "we still get bad writeups" when it is the offseason, please provide some examples of unwarranted negative offseason coverage by PJS because I don't believe it. People need to relax with their conspiracy theories. Please.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Missouri Brave View Post
                                I think we're worrying about the wrong things. As a former journalist and a longtime BU fan, I think the PJStar coverage of Bradley is perfectly fair. Dave Reynolds is extremely evenhanded in his coverage of the team. Very professional.

                                The Wessler columns shouldn't even enter into the discussion if we're discussing fairness because they are columns - they are opinions. If Wessler cared about ISU - and I'm sure he does not - you can bet he'd be writing columns skewering the team. And much of the PJS audience doesn't care about ISU hoops either, at least compared with how they feel about BU.

                                Bradley has had some tough luck early on as a team but the fact is that a team is more than two guys and the team, as a whole, has struggled thus far. I'd be disappointed if Wessler did not take the Braves to task. Offering opinions is his JOB and it is hard to disagree with what he write after the EIU loss.

                                For those who state that "we still get bad writeups" when it is the offseason, please provide some examples of unwarranted negative offseason coverage by PJS because I don't believe it. People need to relax with their conspiracy theories. Please.
                                By design. Red herring. The next topic will probably be the NCAA's singular bias against BU, and local politics preventing us from building an on-campus arena.
                                Onward and Upward!

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