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  • #16
    Originally posted by Disturbed View Post
    No big deal. Just needed to clear that up.
    Tks. Sorry - I'm getting old. My ears are going bad and I can't seem to hear what I'm reading.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by theBUer View Post
      But why not Minnesota, Xavier, Marquette or hell even Northwestern?
      Seriously?

      Haven't you heard? These teams are just chomping at the bit to play at Bradley. We payed them to not play us.

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      • #18
        The way BU has played the last 3 games makes it hard to get the crowd up, there were several of us standing with 4:30 left last night but as soon as the timeout came most sat down and never got back up, if the team does not start playing better offensively then ticket sales are going to be way down.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by real fan View Post
          The way BU has played the last 3 games makes it hard to get the crowd up, there were several of us standing with 4:30 left last night but as soon as the timeout came most sat down and never got back up, if the team does not start playing better offensively then ticket sales are going to be way down.
          I understand what you are saying about quality of the O, however IF BU continues to win, people will come to the games.
          When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by real fan View Post
            The way BU has played the last 3 games makes it hard to get the crowd up, there were several of us standing with 4:30 left last night but as soon as the timeout came most sat down and never got back up, if the team does not start playing better offensively then ticket sales are going to be way down.
            I noticed that with about 3 minutes or so left, we took the lead and had the whole crowd into the game and then we get a stop and decide to play our slow down game again. Why not use the momentum that the crowd is providing and keep going. We were on a great run and that seemed like it just killed the atmosphere.

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            • #21
              i looked over at my cousin last bight and said "remember when u had to buy your ticket early just to make sure u got a ticket to the game?" wow! those days are long gone. i wish bradley would just have all of its games in the new on campus arena. yeah, you'd lose a few thousand in ticket sales. but the house would be packed, loud, and excviting instead of half full, quiet, and less exciting than a funeral. it is sad that the 1000 to 1500 fans that go to mvc tourney are louder than the 5000 errrrr 8500 that were there last night. i know winning helps, but having fans at games instead of empty seats would be great.if they can get more malfunctioning t-shirt cannons and horrible dance routines, i think that could help attendance also.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by peterwade75 View Post
                i looked over at my cousin last bight and said "remember when u had to buy your ticket early just to make sure u got a ticket to the game?" wow! those days are long gone. i wish bradley would just have all of its games in the new on campus arena. yeah, you'd lose a few thousand in ticket sales. but the house would be packed, loud, and excviting instead of half full, quiet, and less exciting than a funeral. it is sad that the 1000 to 1500 fans that go to mvc tourney are louder than the 5000 errrrr 8500 that were there last night. i know winning helps, but having fans at games instead of empty seats would be great.if they can get more malfunctioning t-shirt cannons and horrible dance routines, i think that could help attendance also.
                The cannon is quite a laugher isn't it......I said last nite, you need THAT to throw a T shirt 6 rows up.

                It will be interesting to see how much attendance jumps come the Valley season....you know it will but you usually see a 2000-2500 spike. When you are only getting 5-6K we might creep up around 8K. Lets hope they keep winning, get the cannon fixed and the dancers suddenly turn into the Laker Girls and 11500 here we come.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by peterwade75 View Post
                  i wish bradley would just have all of its games in the new on campus arena. yeah, you'd lose a few thousand in ticket sales. but the house would be packed, loud, and excviting instead of half full, quiet, and less exciting than a funeral.
                  One problem....the same old, quiet fans would be in those seats. It might be packed, but I dunno about loud and exciting.
                  When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                  • #24
                    I wonder how different arenas across the country would be if you took away all of the students, which is in essence what we have? No offense to the Red Sea members who are there every night, they do what they can.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by real fan View Post
                      The way BU has played the last 3 games makes it hard to get the crowd up, there were several of us standing with 4:30 left last night but as soon as the timeout came most sat down and never got back up, if the team does not start playing better offensively then ticket sales are going to be way down.
                      Isn't this part of the reason people soured on Mo? Because of his defensive mindset?

                      Personally, I'd rather see a ton of D and win than a lot of offense and lose.

                      There aren't many successful coaches who rely on their offense to carry them.

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                      • #26
                        I thought the Red Sea, with the number of people and empty rows there was, did a good job with what they had. I would gather that, including the band, there was maybe 100 students there tops.

                        What makes me worried is that the basketball program, whose foundation has been shaped by fans who have followed them for so many years, are not getting any younger.

                        It's a chicken or egg situation. Win, and more students will show. Continue treading towards the same path of middle-of-the-pack finishes, and students will probably not spend a lot of time caring. The older fans will care though, they may be disgruntled and want results now but will support the program be it season tickets or donations.

                        If you want the Red Sea membership to grow, you will need to do two things:

                        1. Get a sponsor (Casey's, One World) to provide free food. Free food is a draw for any college student, it doesn't have to be greasy but it better be tasty and filling. Free drinks would not hurt, maybe have a cash bar as well for those over 21+.

                        2. GET THE SORORITIES INVOLVED. I realize that a chapter will have various stuff on a certain day that makes it impossible to attend, work around it and don't give up! Don't just tell them that basketball is fun. What is in it for them? Why should they spend $25 to join the Red Sea? What is in it for them?

                        Let me repeat, do not let it hold you guys back if a chapter has events going on during the week. Tell them that they are no less of a fan if they only go to one game even, just get them to Carver.

                        Do you want Bradley to play ISU and the chance to play Duke or the U of I, or do you want them to play the University of Illinois-Springfield Prairie Stars as a conference opponent at the new arena?

                        Think about it...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
                          Isn't this part of the reason people soured on Mo? Because of his defensive mindset?

                          Personally, I'd rather see a ton of D and win than a lot of offense and lose.

                          There aren't many successful coaches who rely on their offense to carry them.
                          Yes this is the reason why a lot of fans quit coming when MO. was coaching, I remember being in the rest room at the half and hearing a lot of people complaining about not being able to score more then 20 points in the 1st half, even though they were winning most of their home games BU attendance was shrinking.
                          I think this team is capable of shooting so much better if we kept our post players inside more instead of having them setting so many screens way away from the basket, if we played more inside out our guards would get better looks and Egolf, Prosser and Thompson would also contribute more inside scoring.
                          I know you have to play good defense and win but coach Les promised the fans that he was going to play an up tempo offense and that is not happening which is why people are not showing up to the games, the reason I know this is because I travel across the central Illinois area and have a lot of people telling me that they quit going for the same reason they quit back when MO. was coaching, not exciting to watch.

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                          • #28
                            Our attendance is down and the crowds are dead b/c we're coming off a one game over .500 season that saw WAY too many blown leads at home. Add to that another another middle of the pack MVC predicted finish and you get a half filled arena in Nov. Those of us on this board are probably in the minority of people who pay passionate attention to BU bball even during times of mediocrity. But to get the masses in Carver and excite the regulars like the rest of us, you gotta win.

                            It will get better during the Valley slate, but we need to win consistently to earn back the atmosphere we all remember. I would love to see it, remember the NIT run in 94? What an atmosphere that was! The rest of mid-late 90's it was solid too. And the Mich St. game was unreal. We've had moments in the past few years, but .500 ball and NIU at home just doesn't get most folks jacked up.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ancona flash View Post
                              Our attendance is down and the crowds are dead b/c we're coming off a one game over .500 season that saw WAY too many blown leads at home. Add to that another another middle of the pack MVC predicted finish and you get a half filled arena in Nov. Those of us on this board are probably in the minority of people who pay passionate attention to BU bball even during times of mediocrity. But to get the masses in Carver and excite the regulars like the rest of us, you gotta win.

                              It will get better during the Valley slate, but we need to win consistently to earn back the atmosphere we all remember. I would love to see it, remember the NIT run in 94? What an atmosphere that was! The rest of mid-late 90's it was solid too. And the Mich St. game was unreal. We've had moments in the past few years, but .500 ball and NIU at home just doesn't get most folks jacked up.
                              Boy do I remember that! That NIT game against ODU was unreal! Amazing comeback and a deafening crowd! It can happen again, and occasionally you get a little taste of it. Even last night it sounded like the crowd got into the game quite a bit during Bradley's late comeback against LMU. So we can recapture some of that earlier excitement, but winning consistently at home certainly will help.

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                              • #30
                                No disrespect, cause I am one of them, but, watching a couple home games over the Internet, the avg age of a lot of the folks in the Arena, must have been pushing 60 yrs old. Don't expect too much from them.....

                                Perhaps scientists and drug companies could invent a little pill us old folks can take before home games that would help us all stand straight up and yell non stop for a couple of hours.....'Fanagra'

                                In case you continue to stand up and yell for more than four hours, please consult your physician....
                                BUilding for the Future

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