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  • #16
    Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
    You do know that if we counted our attendance like Bradley does, ISU and BU would be very similar in #'s.
    I seriously hope you're joking. An MVC game for ILSU doesn't draw as well as a non-con game for BU, and I mean butts in seats. Once you figure in all the other factors, you should outdraw BU everygame, but honestly, it's not even close.

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    • #17
      Why I agree with you that the Bears excuse is pathetic, it does have an impact. Just as it has an impact on BU games. I would be glad to link you to the talk on this very board regarding games that went up against the NFL on Sundays if you would like.

      And as far as the attendance goes, ISU doesn't count tickets sold. They count butts in the seats. Bradley counts tickets sold. If ISU counted tickets sold, you would be surprised how close our attendance #'s are.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        Not even close, it will never be close. Considering the surrounding population is similar and ISU has an enrollment of nearly 4 times Bradley's, with the 25-win seasons, Redbird Arena should be packed. You should have at least as many season ticket holders, which isn't close judging from the empty upper bowl, and partially empty lower bowl. Just admit that ISU's fan base is nowhere near as good as Bradley's.
        ok
        "But instead lets just hate while their MBB and WBB programs play blackjack against BU. Twenty-One in a row, seven by the Men & 14 by their women." ~NSBF

        @FrontRowSto

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        • #19
          Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
          Why I agree with you that the Bears excuse is pathetic, it does have an impact. Just as it has an impact on BU games. I would be glad to link you to the talk on this very board regarding games that went up against the NFL on Sundays if you would like.

          And as far as the attendance goes, ISU doesn't count tickets sold. They count butts in the seats. Bradley counts tickets sold. If ISU counted tickets sold, you would be surprised how close our attendance #'s are.
          You guys have almost 3,000 no-shows too?
          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
            Why I agree with you that the Bears excuse is pathetic, it does have an impact. Just as it has an impact on BU games. I would be glad to link you to the talk on this very board regarding games that went up against the NFL on Sundays if you would like.
            I do agree completely with this part. I think it has a huge impact, in addition to people wanting to stay in on Sundays.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
              You guys have almost 3,000 no-shows too?
              We have over 3,000 student season ticket holders. Most nights especially early on we get 500.

              So that's 2,500 right there.

              The lower bowl is completely sold out. So any empty seats around the entire lower bowl are paid, season tickets.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                I do agree completely with this part. I think it has a huge impact, in addition to people wanting to stay in on Sundays.
                Thanks amckillip. I personally don't agree with it, but I do know people that think watching NFL on Sundays and staying in with the family is the way to go on Sundays.

                ISU should have scheduled this game for 4:05pm. Give people the opporunity to watch the Noon games and take your chances going up against the 2nd half of the 3pm kick-offs.

                In year's past this game probably would have been Saturday, a few hours after the football game. But this year Redbird Arena was booked with the IHSA Volleyball State series (championships).

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                  5200? You really thought the Civic Center was LESS than half full?

                  No sorry I meant 6200. A close friend worked at the PCC for many years and he gave me a real easy way to estimate attendance.

                  He divided it into 5 seperate areas and gave me numbers of what each area holds. The lower bowl, both upper end zones and both side zones = 5 areas.

                  The lower bowl was 90% full, sides were about 70% and both end zones were empty.

                  So that put us at 6000-6500 giver or take.....

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                    No sorry I meant 6200. A close friend worked at the PCC for many years and he gave me a real easy way to estimate attendance.

                    He divided it into 5 seperate areas and gave me numbers of what each area holds. The lower bowl, both upper end zones and both side zones = 5 areas.

                    The lower bowl was 90% full, sides were about 70% and both end zones were empty.

                    So that put us at 6000-6500 giver or take.....
                    You can't count your golf score..... or even your pop-a-shot score!!
                    How can you count 6,500 people?
                    It's not Business, It's Personal

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Air Petey View Post
                      You can't count your golf score..... or even your pop-a-shot score!!
                      How can you count 6,500 people?

                      One person for every Beer you drank.....

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                      • #26
                        While I don't accept the "Bears game" excuse, I do think the fact that Bradley was playing SIUe for the MVC soccer championship Sunday afternoon probably did cut into the ISU crowd significantly.

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                        • #27
                          As far as the game was concerned...

                          Minute breakdown:

                          Clark 28*- 4 points, 9 boards. Improved in every way from last year. Still needs a better first step to get around defenders.

                          Ekey 26*- 6 points (2/3 from 3), 1 board, 4 assists, 2 steals, 4 blocks. Might be coming for Jackie's freshman blocks record. Amazing elevation and quick leaper. Wouldn't be surprised to see him start every game he ever plays at ISU. HS teammate of Justin Clark.

                          Cousin 21*- 6 points, 3 assists. FAST. Similar mold to Lloyd Phillips which we will need.

                          Rubin 21*-8 points. Team leader. Bulked up. If we can get 5-8 a game from him that would be a huge bonus.

                          Mishler 21- 18 points, 2 boards. Nice to know we have a serviceable big guy if Jackie goes down. Won't wow anybody, but gets the job done. SIUe's bigs were bad.

                          Smith 21- 2 points, 3 boards, 3 steals. FAST. I know t posted about some of his shooting struggles in JuCo, but I don't think that will be a problem at ISU because he won't be asked to shoot the ball. Pass first PG.

                          Lewis 13- 10 and 6. Had 3 turnovers. Looks to have trimmed down a bit and seems faster without losing any of his strength. Coming off a foot injury.

                          Hill 12- 6 points, 2 boards, 2 assists. Battled sickness and injury in practice. Will be seeing a lot more minutes when healthy.

                          Blue 16- 14 points. Very fast even though his ankle was hurting him. He can get to the rim which is something we will need from a few of our guards.

                          Carmichael 13*- 18 and 5... His health will be the difference between a top 4 finish and a play-in game.

                          Upshaw 6- I don't see him making an impact this season. Seems to have the athletic tools, but cannot shoot the ball.

                          Coates 2- Good weekend for Richwoods!!!

                          Threloff 0- Looks like a redshirt candidate, but that could change if Jackie can't stay healthy.

                          *starter

                          Very good start to the season. I'm filled with skeptical optimism. The defense still needs work; slow feet, closing out, etc. but the talent is there for a surprise year this year and a very bright future in the next 2.

                          Any questions... Let 'em rip!
                          "But instead lets just hate while their MBB and WBB programs play blackjack against BU. Twenty-One in a row, seven by the Men & 14 by their women." ~NSBF

                          @FrontRowSto

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ManMythLegend View Post
                            Who cares...just win baby!

                            -MML
                            I agree with who cares about how many attend an ISU game, I just want us to win and finish top 3 this season.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ISUBirds
                              Mishler is a (walk-on?) Senior. Threloff is the freshman.
                              Mishler got Thornton's scholarship.
                              "But instead lets just hate while their MBB and WBB programs play blackjack against BU. Twenty-One in a row, seven by the Men & 14 by their women." ~NSBF

                              @FrontRowSto

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
                                Mishler got Thornton's scholarship.
                                I thought I remembered hearing that, but wasn't 100% sure.

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