15 wins

[fansince55]

My undies aren't too bunched up yet. It is typical to see offense lag early in the season. We saw a lot of improvement in the defense from the first game. Rebound and play defense and this team will be able to score.

Ok, it's another year and we're saying the same stuff as the last how many years. JL has the team right where he wants it. Last night the 5 guys that played the most were guards. Same old thing. Same old thing. All we have to do is rebound and play defense? Who's going to rebound? How are 5 guards going to stop any inside game? At least we have some guys that can change light bulbs in tight places. Who is going to score? AW hasn't improved since his sophomore year. Lemon can't do it all and next year we've got a couple more really good guards!!!

[Dubl R 1]

I reserve the right to change my mind on a per game basis......but I just didn't like what I saw.

I hope Sam can get stronger.....but if he can't practice its going to take awhile to get into game shape.

Just getting ready for a long season. Again, hope I'm wrong.

Are you a Cubs Fan Dogs??.....that last line sounds like a Cubs fan talking.

[amckillip]

Ok, it's another year and we're saying the same stuff as the last how many years. JL has the team right where he wants it. Last night the 5 guys that played the most were guards. Same old thing. Same old thing. All we have to do is rebound and play defense? Who's going to rebound? How are 5 guards going to stop any inside game? At least we have some guys that can change light bulbs in tight places. Who is going to score? AW hasn't improved since his sophomore year. Lemon can't do it all and next year we've got a couple more really good guards!!!

We lose our best post player for the season and we play more guards. Who would have guessed?

[Heemeskerk]

Ok, it's another year and we're saying the same stuff as the last how many years. JL has the team right where he wants it. Last night the 5 guys that played the most were guards. Same old thing. Same old thing. All we have to do is rebound and play defense? Who's going to rebound? How are 5 guards going to stop any inside game? At least we have some guys that can change light bulbs in tight places. Who is going to score? AW hasn't improved since his sophomore year. Lemon can't do it all and next year we've got a couple more really good guards!!!

We might as well pack it in. This team is doomed. My butt crack is even schaffing since my undies are so bunched up.

As a fan I have no influence over the coach, injuries, etc. I happen to chose to support the team and enjoy watching the games. All is not lost. If this team outworks other teams good things will happen. As I look at the Valley the talent spread is not that great. I happen to be one of those strange people that thing much is possible with an extremely hard work ethic and positive attitude. This team can surprise us. Will they, I don't know.

[basketball nut]

Respect your thoughts and optomism but that sounds like a bunch of "wishing".....I'm going on what WAS not what CAN BE. Hope you are correct and what at least I saw, grows into what you forecast.

I am glad you're such a great evaluator that you can tell by 1 game how good the team will do the rest of the year. As someone that has doone some coaching I have seen many times teams improve from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. I have also seen many games where a team plays at a level mediocrity and the next game they look like they could beat anyone they play.
Honestly if I felt like you did I, probably, wouldn't bother watching another game all year. I actaully like BB and want to see a team that is competative and gives 100% and the team on the floor last night qualifies for that so I enjoyed the game. Sorry you didn't!!!

[MacabreMob]

We might as well pack it in. This team is doomed. My butt crack is even schaffing since my undies are so bunched up.

As a fan I have no influence over the coach, injuries, etc. I happen to chose to support the team and enjoy watching the games. All is not lost. If this team outworks other teams good things will happen. As I look at the Valley the talent spread is not that great. I happen to be one of those strange people that thing much is possible with an extremely hard work ethic and positive attitude. This team can surprise us. Will they, I don't know.

I'm with ya Heemes - all is not lost.

Also, I suggest Boudreaux's Butt Paste to treat the chafing and next time use Body Glide to prevent chafing.

[Heemeskerk]

I'm with ya Heemes - all is not lost.

Also, I suggest Boudreaux's Butt Paste to treat the chafing and next time use Body Glide to prevent chafing.

Thanks for the tip Macabre. I like the thought process. Focus on solutions not the problems. And thanks for the spelling correction on chafing.

[Heemeskerk]

I'm with ya Heemes - all is not lost.

Also, I suggest Boudreaux's Butt Paste to treat the chafing and next time use Body Glide to prevent chafing.

And for those interested.. http://www.buttpaste.com/BLButtPaste.php

[dogsrus]

I think teams can improve I also think other teams can digress during a season. As we know injuries, suspensions, etc can and will affect a team.

I didnt think that we looked great or even good but I see a lot of potential. It has been years since Ive seen guys not fly out at guys, instead stayed down on D and made the other player make a decision. I thought we boxed out well and was very active on anything in the lane.

I think shooting will eventually work itself out and I thought we had many open looks.

As I said I am extremely concerned about our point guard play if SM is not at 100%. If he can get healthy and play 30 minutes a night, then I know we will be a solid team.

Sounds reasonable.....I'm worried about Sam though. I didn't see a guy out of shape I saw a guy with NO push off on his jump shot.

[dogsrus]

I'll take that bet. What's the bet?

If I'm correct I'll be sad and quiet.....if I'm wrong (hope I am) you can call me a jack wagon and verbally abuse me on the board.

[dogsrus]

I am glad you're such a great evaluator that you can tell by 1 game how good the team will do the rest of the year. As someone that has doone some coaching I have seen many times teams improve from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. I have also seen many games where a team plays at a level mediocrity and the next game they look like they could beat anyone they play.
Honestly if I felt like you did I, probably, wouldn't bother watching another game all year. I actaully like BB and want to see a team that is competative and gives 100% and the team on the floor last night qualifies for that so I enjoyed the game. Sorry you didn't!!!

A person doesn't have to have been a coach to understand teams can improve,,,did you really suggest that? I bet 99% of posters never have been a coach before...so do we leave all the talent evaluations for the small % that has? Of COURSE a team can improve and I hope the do...but I'm making MY assesment on what actually went on and I simply didn't like what I saw last nite....should I lie? Should I not say anything at all....I thought thats what these boards were for....opinions. Should we ALL say the same thing....does everyone going to the same movie have to leave feeling the same way about the show?

For the record I haven't missed a home game since 1986.....seen some good teams and BAD teams but supported EVERY team with my last breath. Traveled coast to coast to support those good AND bad teams. So no I'm not staying home.

I'm going to call em like I see em. If thats upsetting to you feel free to skip over whatever I have to say. And if you want me to simply feel how you do after a game that ain't going to happen either. If you want to simply debate why YOU feel different I'll be happy to do that but if you want to make it about me have a good day but no thanks.

I don't like what I saw...you did..... don't understand why is that a problem?

[SFP]

Dogrus has has opinion and that is that. Is it premature, IMO yes but it is only an opinion and as long as the team doesn't believe it then who cares?

[Bravesfan]

A person doesn't have to have been a coach to understand teams can improve,,,did you really suggest that? I bet 99% of posters never have been a coach before...so do we leave all the talent evaluations for the small % that has? Of COURSE a team can improve and I hope the do...but I'm making MY assesment on what actually went on and I simply didn't like what I saw last nite....should I lie? Should I not say anything at all....I thought thats what these boards were for....opinions. Should we ALL say the same thing....does everyone going to the same movie have to leave feeling the same way about the show?

For the record I haven't missed a home game since 1986.....seen some good teams and BAD teams but supported EVERY team with my last breath. Traveled coast to coast to support those good AND bad teams. So no I'm not staying home.

I'm going to call em like I see em. If thats upsetting to you feel free to skip over whatever I have to say. And if you want me to simply feel how you do after a game that ain't going to happen either. If you want to simply debate why YOU feel different I'll be happy to do that but if you want to make it about me have a good day but no thanks.

I don't like what I saw...you did..... don't understand why is that a problem?

I understand your opinion dogs, but I and others are saying that it's a bit premature to make an educated guess on the number of potential wins based on just one game. Sure they may not have played up to their potential last night, but that could just be first game rust.

I like to base my opinions on trends, not just one possibly fluky game. As I said earlier, I think we will all have a much better idea where this team is headed after the four games next week, possibly sooner if we start losing games. But based on one game, sorry. There's no way possible I can even venture a guess as to how well they will do until I see at least a few more games next week.

[Bravesfan]

Dogrus has has opinion and that is that. Is it premature, IMO yes but it is only an opinion and as long as the team doesn't believe it then who cares?

Definitely agreed SFP. Just the premature part that I was trying to emphasize as well.

[dogsrus]

I understand your opinion dogs, but I and others are saying that it's a bit premature to make an educated guess on the number of potential wins based on just one game.

Didn't we have a poll BEFORE the season started ( i.e., ZERO games )...."Guess how many wins".

Respectfully....was THAT "premature" ?