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  • #61
    Originally posted by SFP View Post
    Huh? Really? Explain where a quick driving guard does not fit into a JL system.
    Huh? Really? Too often the guards settle for mid-range jumpers or 3s. Maybe that's more a function of the players than JL.

    I want JL to just let WL play.
    JL are not respunsible foor the string of injunrys....

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    • #62
      Originally posted by unbekannt View Post
      Huh? Really? Too often the guards settle for mid-range jumpers or 3s. Maybe that's more a function of the players than JL.

      I want JL to just let WL play.
      If you listened to the post game show last night it sounds both JL & WL made it sound like there is a green light for WL to penetrate at will and that they plan to add the mid-range game later. A little reading between the lines but that's what I got out of it.

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      • #63
        TAMUK was a bad team. With TB out, JL will need to adjust the lineup. I hope that means more time for AT and JP assuming that WE will already being playing 24-25 minutes a game. If we start going with an even more-undersized lineup ... well, I don't want to even imagine that. I think this team has the players to be good this year. I have hard figuring out how AT only gets 3 minutes in last night's game.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
          TAMUK was a bad team. With TB out, JL will need to adjust the lineup. I hope that means more time for AT and JP assuming that WE will already being playing 24-25 minutes a game. If we start going with an even more-undersized lineup ... well, I don't want to even imagine that. I think this team has the players to be good this year. I have hard figuring out how AT only gets 3 minutes in last night's game.
          My guess is that TAMK was small and WE & JP matched up better. I will say that AT didn't look bad in his time out there. I thnk you will see more of him in the next game or two. I think we can expect AT to get SS minutes this year & there were some games over the last 2 years that SS never left the bench and others he played a ton.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by romar View Post
            My guess is that TAMK was small and WE & JP matched up better. I will say that AT didn't look bad in his time out there. I thnk you will see more of him in the next game or two. I think we can expect AT to get SS minutes this year & there were some games over the last 2 years that SS never left the bench and others he played a ton.
            Romar I hope you are right. In order for us to make up for TB being out we will need AT to step up and be able to play meaningful minutes.

            The other part we need to do is get our bigs to hang on to the ball being WE, JP or AT. I like that either DD, WL or DSE has the ability to put the ball on the floor and drive. This will give our bigs a chance to be able to receive a dish and go up strong as teams adjust to this.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by romar View Post
              If you listened to the post game show last night it sounds both JL & WL made it sound like there is a green light for WL to penetrate at will and that they plan to add the mid-range game later. A little reading between the lines but that's what I got out of it.
              I didn't hear that part of the post-game and just read it recently. That sounds great, and I really hope it continues. The only downside to playing like that is injury. He's not big and will likely take some hard shots especially in conference play. I'd still love to see it continue b/c it's exciting!
              JL are not respunsible foor the string of injunrys....

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              • #67
                heres my take:

                Dodie- looked real good and back to his old self.... i think we can get 12ppg and always good defense from him
                DSE- looked improved from last year, very active on the offensive and defensive end
                WL- player of the game, he can drive any time he wants, he could be a stud if he ever developed a jumpshot. I think hes going to be a chris roberts type of player.
                AW- non factor, off night.... need him to step up bigtime if we want to have any hope this year
                SM- looked a bit rusty but expected, just needs some minutes to get back in game shape, if he woulda been in the same shape as the others we might have won this game by 20.
                Egolf- showed flashes (first shot of the game), 12 shots might be a bit much but maybe he feels like he has to without TB. Still needs to go up stronger around the hoop
                JP- liked what i saw and heard from red/white and quincy but looked like he wasnt ready for d1 last night. those two travels were probably to two worst travels ive ever seen. and the jump hook airball from a foot away with barely anyone on him was just bad

                woulda like to see more minutes from AT

                14pts 11 rebounds combined from WE-JP... I think if we can get that production every night from our bigs we should be ok. However to only outrebound this team by 1 is disappointing.

                I think unless we get someone to step up big time a top 3 finish is now out of the question and playing at 2:30 will be unfortunaely be considered a success...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                  BTW, anyone missing MO or JW(less because he didn't want to come here) right now? Ugh.
                  Was talking to DaCoach at the game last night and he brought up a great point......how nice it would have been to have SH come in this season instead of next season. I realize that would be the AD scholarship, but SH would have been a nice player to have available right now!
                  ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                    I would say our first goal is to stop our opponent. We had a much better chance last night with 4 guards than putting WE at the 4.
                    You're right about that! This team's first goal should be to stop our opponent. The offense will come along with that and all we have to do is outscore the other team!
                    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TheHeemyMonster View Post
                      heres my take:

                      Dodie- looked real good and back to his old self.... i think we can get 12ppg and always good defense from him
                      DSE- looked improved from last year, very active on the offensive and defensive end
                      WL- player of the game, he can drive any time he wants, he could be a stud if he ever developed a jumpshot. I think hes going to be a chris roberts type of player.
                      AW- non factor, off night.... need him to step up bigtime if we want to have any hope this year
                      SM- looked a bit rusty but expected, just needs some minutes to get back in game shape, if he woulda been in the same shape as the others we might have won this game by 20.
                      Egolf- showed flashes (first shot of the game), 12 shots might be a bit much but maybe he feels like he has to without TB. Still needs to go up stronger around the hoop
                      JP- liked what i saw and heard from red/white and quincy but looked like he wasnt ready for d1 last night. those two travels were probably to two worst travels ive ever seen. and the jump hook airball from a foot away with barely anyone on him was just bad

                      woulda like to see more minutes from AT

                      14pts 11 rebounds combined from WE-JP... I think if we can get that production every night from our bigs we should be ok. However to only outrebound this team by 1 is disappointing.

                      I think unless we get someone to step up big time a top 3 finish is now out of the question and playing at 2:30 will be unfortunaely be considered a success...
                      Two disagreements...nothing major but:

                      AW was a factor...I am good with winning and he is not our leading scorer...he had some very very good defensive plays and some nice passes as well...

                      JP's elbow got hit on that shot......he will get better as we go...

                      Playing 4 guards will be tough to out rebound too many teams...

                      We do need someone to step into TB 's minutes and produce...JE and MK are likely suspects..but WE and JP playing alongside 3 guards works for me...
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                        You're right about that! This team's first goal should be to stop our opponent. The offense will come along with that and all we have to do is outscore the other team!
                        I guess we will never know if going big and going zone would have been a better defensive move than 4 Guard Man to Man. How many 2nd chance points for TAMK? Hard to think they were a great a 3 point shooting team coming in...How much dribble penetration for TAMK?

                        Instead of bricking 3 point shots on offense, pound the ball in, run high low offense with Will on top and AT/JP down low. Set interior screens. Play volleyball with them.

                        I'll save others the need to remind me JL is the coach and I'm not, and that I am not smarter than JL.

                        All I can say is would have been nice to see what would have happened for a few minutes, or, that if JL knows our bigs can't stop or beat the stuffings out of D-II TAMK inside, or can't outrebound D-II TAMK, sayonara......(or why didn't JL recruit D-II TAMK's bigs)...
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                        • #72
                          AW IMO was a factor also. What game did you watch. Does someone have to score to be a factor. Did you see the rebounds he had?

                          Also I believe for the team to accomplish what I thought they could before TB went down WE will have to step up his game by a huge factor then what we saw last night. I also expect to see a bit more from JP and AT will also have to give this team huge minutes when he is in.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                            Was talking to DaCoach at the game last night and he brought up a great point......how nice it would have been to have SH come in this season instead of next season. I realize that would be the AD scholarship, but SH would have been a nice player to have available right now!
                            I am 180 degress opposite on this. This is a year for JL to break his addiction to playing an undersized line up and show us that he can coach a team that doesn't rely on guards and 3 point shooting. TB going out for the year will put a premium on JL's coaching. This is the year he either shows he can coach or he is out of here IMO.

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                            • #74
                              I agree with most of what has been said in his post. I want to bring up a couple of my takeaways, outside of Walt's awesomeness.

                              Dodie played an exceptional game. He has a knack for knowing when the team needs a lift and takes it upon himself to give us that lift. Heck, does anybody remember the game last year when he broke his arm? If I recall, BU came out as flat as can be against a poor opponent, and Dodie put the team on his back and had like 16 points in a fairly short period of time when the injury occurred.

                              Watch his body language on the court. He is passionate, emotional, and exactly the type of player this team needs. I think he is going to be one of the most important players for us this season.

                              I also think AW didn't get enough credit. If you simply look at the box score, he appeared to have a poor game. But in person, he provided a lot of leadership on the floor and played very good defense. He really looks bulked up which will definitely work to his advantage since he will probably play 15-25 mpg at the 4.
                              #DunkOnYou

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
                                I am 180 degress opposite on this. This is a year for JL to break his addiction to playing an undersized line up and show us that he can coach a team that doesn't rely on guards and 3 point shooting. TB going out for the year will put a premium on JL's coaching. This is the year he either shows he can coach or he is out of here IMO.
                                I'm not sure how having SH available this season would be the opposite of what you stated.
                                ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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