SRW says JL has put out the words..will he do the deeds

[srw]

Maybe two of the most valuable quotes I have heard from the JL era are in this article:

http://bit.ly/9aFcKC

Quote 1:
"It's obvious to me the offensive end is way more important to guys than the defensive end," BU coach Jim Les said after the game. "Somehow we've got to get that focus changed. What I've been doing hasn't worked so we're going to have to change course."

Words are 100% correct, and are why BU is mired in the world of 2:30

Quote 2:
"Walt wants to be good," Les said. "Sometimes he has frustration because he wants it to come quickly. He's going to push guys for minutes. The mistakes I'm seeing defensively from my veteran guys, I might as well live with that from a freshman."

Amen....We can be mediocre with a lot of guys on this team...If seniors aren't going to step up...then get out..

[SaintLouBrave22]

Maybe two of the most valuable quotes I have heard from the JL era are in this article:

http://bit.ly/9aFcKC

Quote 1:
"It's obvious to me the offensive end is way more important to guys than the defensive end," BU coach Jim Les said after the game. "Somehow we've got to get that focus changed. What I've been doing hasn't worked so we're going to have to change course."

Words are 100% correct, and are why BU is mired in the world of 2:30

Quote 2:
"Walt wants to be good," Les said. "Sometimes he has frustration because he wants it to come quickly. He's going to push guys for minutes. The mistakes I'm seeing defensively from my veteran guys, I might as well live with that from a freshman."

Amen....We can be mediocre with a lot of guys on this team...If seniors aren't going to step up...then get out..

My ? is...

Why has it taken him 8+ years to figure out what he's doing hasn't worked...

I am taking a show me what you can do approach...because so far, all this is right now is lip service...

[BradleyJD]

Maybe two of the most valuable quotes I have heard from the JL era are in this article:

http://bit.ly/9aFcKC

Quote 1:
"It's obvious to me the offensive end is way more important to guys than the defensive end," BU coach Jim Les said after the game. "Somehow we've got to get that focus changed. What I've been doing hasn't worked so we're going to have to change course."

Words are 100% correct, and are why BU is mired in the world of 2:30

Quote 2:
"Walt wants to be good," Les said. "Sometimes he has frustration because he wants it to come quickly. He's going to push guys for minutes. The mistakes I'm seeing defensively from my veteran guys, I might as well live with that from a freshman."

Amen....We can be mediocre with a lot of guys on this team...If seniors aren't going to step up...then get out..

Saying it and doing it are two different animals.

I hope Jimmy sticks to his word and sits down ANY player who does not give the effort that is needed. I don't care what year they are.

[romar]

My ? is...

Why has it taken him 8+ years to figure out what he's doing hasn't worked...

I am taking a show me what you can do approach...because so far, all this is right now is lip service...

I think you are a little off here. I think until last year considering all the outside things some call reasons and others call excuses, he was having just enough success to justify continuing down the same path.

I think outside influences (Dr. Cross hiring, poor results last year and losing asst coaches, etc.) have caused him to step back & re-evaluate. Never have seen JL as someone afraid of hard work or unwilling to make a change once he is convinced there is a problem. Sure, like EVERY coach he is prideful, but I think he understands that change has to happen and look at the hiring of Jim Platt and Willie Scott as him not just giving lip service any longer. At least that's how I see it.

[LittleBrave]

Saying it and doing it are two different animals.

I hope Jimmy sticks to his word and sits down ANY player who does not give the effort that is needed. I don't care what year they are.

If he called out the veterans of this team in the post-game interview and threatened to sit them, yet allowed AW to play all but 2 minutes of an "exhibition" game, I don't see him sticking to his word. He should have made a statement in the game by benching the vets. He didn't stick to his word last season after the Iowa St. game. I'll believe it when I see it.

[srw]

I think you are a little off here. I think until last year considering all the outside things some call reasons and others call excuses, he was having just enough success to justify continuing down the same path.

I think outside influences (Dr. Cross hiring, poor results last year and losing asst coaches, etc.) have caused him to step back & re-evaluate. Never have seen JL as someone afraid of hard work or unwilling to make a change once he is convinced there is a problem. Sure, like EVERY coach he is prideful, but I think he understands that change has to happen and look at the hiring of Jim Platt and Willie Scott as him not just giving lip service any longer. At least that's how I see it.

Romar..I hope you are right.

Wouldnt it be nice to have this board and be contending for a championship?

[srw]

If he called out the veterans of this team in the post-game interview and threatened to sit them, yet allowed AW to play all but 2 minutes of an "exhibition" game, I don't see him sticking to his word. He should have made a statement in the game by benching the vets. He didn't stick to his word last season after the Iowa St. game. I'll believe it when I see it.

Lets see if
Les/Platt/Roadrunner can be firm.

Im hopeful

[it's boogie time]

You have to have capable players to come off the bench and produce if you are going to sit a veteran and try to prove a point. That 2006 team had nine quality players that allowed Coach Les to make a point. This team has some quality backups in the backcourt, but not the frontcourt. I don't think Coach Les can bench somebody like Brown or Egolf if he doesn't think they are "buying in".

I think we are going to find out a lot about the depth of this roster with the two sets of back to back games next week.

[tornado]

pre-game chatter, post-game chatter, pre-season chatter, and the babble of media opinions..and some message board opinions...
Personally I don't know what is the purpose of picking apart every word as if we've discovered a vast, unknown secret

I think the answers are clear and Dave Reynolds has figured it out --
These are his words --- not mine so take it up with DR....
"four 20-win seasons in the last five, a strong graduation rate and
academic performance by his players and five upsets of Top 25 teams in the
last five years.
And then there is the head coach’s instrumental role in raising funds for the
new Renaissance Coliseum, which has launched BU athletics into the 21st
century.

“There has been one year when we didn’t have a significant injury, and that
year we were in the Sweet 16,” he says. “I don’t look at (injuries) as an
excuse. They are part and parcel of the game. But we’ve stayed very
competitive despite some major setbacks.”

Bradley, indeed, has had more than its share of misfortune on the court.

In Les’ second year, leading scorer Phillip Gilbert’s stress fracture cost the
guard 10 games in which the Braves were 1-9 and saw their season wrecked.

Reserve center Sam Singh missed most of the next year with injuries. In
2006-07, top scorer Jeremy Crouch was sidelined for eight games. The year
after, point guard Daniel Ruffin missed seven contests due to injury and
starting guard Andrew Warren five.

In 2008-09, Warren sat out the whole year and starting center Will Egolf
missed all but three games. Then came last year when starting guard Dodie
Dunson went down for the season in Game Two and Dyricus Simms-Edwards
missed five midseason contests.

During Les’ eight years only one Valley team, Indiana State, suffered more
man-games lost to injury (173) than Bradley’s 154."

http://www.bradleyhoops.com/news/x412544040/Hoops-Braves-at-the-Crossroads

[real fan]

My ? is...

Why has it taken him 8+ years to figure out what he's doing hasn't worked...

I am taking a show me what you can do approach...because so far, all this is right now is lip service...

I hope he means what defense he is trying to run does not work instead od saying our players are not getting it because like we have already said our players have changed yet we see the same results, change the defensive scheme .

[BradleyJD]

pre-game chatter, post-game chatter, pre-season chatter, and the babble of media opinions..and some message board opinions...
Personally I don't know what is the purpose of picking apart every word as if we've discovered a vast, unknown secret

I think the answers are clear and Dave Reynolds has figured it out --
These are his words --- not mine so take it up with DR....
"four 20-win seasons in the last five, a strong graduation rate and
academic performance by his players and five upsets of Top 25 teams in the
last five years.
And then there is the head coach??™s instrumental role in raising funds for the
new Renaissance Coliseum, which has launched BU athletics into the 21st
century.

???There has been one year when we didn??™t have a significant injury, and that
year we were in the Sweet 16,??? he says. ???I don??™t look at (injuries) as an
excuse. They are part and parcel of the game. But we??™ve stayed very
competitive despite some major setbacks.???

Bradley, indeed, has had more than its share of misfortune on the court.

In Les??™ second year, leading scorer Phillip Gilbert??™s stress fracture cost the
guard 10 games in which the Braves were 1-9 and saw their season wrecked.

Reserve center Sam Singh missed most of the next year with injuries. In
2006-07, top scorer Jeremy Crouch was sidelined for eight games. The year
after, point guard Daniel Ruffin missed seven contests due to injury and
starting guard Andrew Warren five.

In 2008-09, Warren sat out the whole year and starting center Will Egolf
missed all but three games. Then came last year when starting guard Dodie
Dunson went down for the season in Game Two and Dyricus Simms-Edwards
missed five midseason contests.

During Les??™ eight years only one Valley team, Indiana State, suffered more
man-games lost to injury (173) than Bradley??™s 154."
http://www.bradleyhoops.com/news/x41...the-Crossroads

Agreed....and all of those are legitimate. As are these....

"In his eight years, Les has not finished in the top three of the league. In fact, he hasn??™t had a team in contention for the crown in the second half of any season."

"Of course, the adversities and man-games lost have involved more than just injuries. Future Mountain West Conference Player of the Year and NBA All-Star Danny Granger transferred from BU after only one semester under Les."

"Patrick O??™Bryant and Will Franklin sat out eight and six games, respectively, as punishment from the NCAA for receiving more cash than they earned from their summer jobs."

"Other team-violation suspensions followed in subsequent years ??” from Ray Brown??™s drug-test failure (and ultimate dismissal) to Ruffin??™s misdemeanor battery case to the Theron Wilson-Tyrone Cole-Scott underage drinking arrest to Taylor Brown??™s multiple off-the-court transgressions last season that cost him four games."

"Then there were the sudden departures last year of Les??™ top two assistant coaches ??” Steve Merfeld in December and Eric Buescher following the season. "

All these things are valid as well. Somehow, BU needs to find a way to put all the pieces together. If that is with Jimmy that is great. Injuries, suspensions, transfers, etc. are all part of the game.

Some good and some bad is the norm for college athletics. The key is to finding the way to have the good outweigh the bad.

[ER3]

pre-game chatter, post-game chatter, pre-season chatter, and the babble of media opinions..and some message board opinions...
Personally I don't know what is the purpose of picking apart every word as if we've discovered a vast, unknown secret

I think the answers are clear and Dave Reynolds has figured it out --
These are his words --- not mine so take it up with DR....
"four 20-win seasons in the last five, a strong graduation rate and
academic performance by his players and five upsets of Top 25 teams in the
last five years.
And then there is the head coach??™s instrumental role in raising funds for the
new Renaissance Coliseum, which has launched BU athletics into the 21st
century.

???There has been one year when we didn??™t have a significant injury, and that
year we were in the Sweet 16,??? he says. ???I don??™t look at (injuries) as an
excuse. They are part and parcel of the game. But we??™ve stayed very
competitive despite some major setbacks.???

Bradley, indeed, has had more than its share of misfortune on the court.

In Les??™ second year, leading scorer Phillip Gilbert??™s stress fracture cost the
guard 10 games in which the Braves were 1-9 and saw their season wrecked.

Reserve center Sam Singh missed most of the next year with injuries. In
2006-07, top scorer Jeremy Crouch was sidelined for eight games. The year
after, point guard Daniel Ruffin missed seven contests due to injury and
starting guard Andrew Warren five.

In 2008-09, Warren sat out the whole year and starting center Will Egolf
missed all but three games. Then came last year when starting guard Dodie
Dunson went down for the season in Game Two and Dyricus Simms-Edwards
missed five midseason contests.

During Les??™ eight years only one Valley team, Indiana State, suffered more
man-games lost to injury (173) than Bradley??™s 154."
http://www.bradleyhoops.com/news/x41...the-Crossroads

The spinmaster is working hard today...

[ER3]

Agreed....and all of those are legitimate. As are these....

"In his eight years, Les has not finished in the top three of the league. In fact, he hasn??™t had a team in contention for the crown in the second half of any season."

"Of course, the adversities and man-games lost have involved more than just injuries. Future Mountain West Conference Player of the Year and NBA All-Star Danny Granger transferred from BU after only one semester under Les."

"Patrick O??™Bryant and Will Franklin sat out eight and six games, respectively, as punishment from the NCAA for receiving more cash than they earned from their summer jobs."

"Other team-violation suspensions followed in subsequent years ??” from Ray Brown??™s drug-test failure (and ultimate dismissal) to Ruffin??™s misdemeanor battery case to the Theron Wilson-Tyrone Cole-Scott underage drinking arrest to Taylor Brown??™s multiple off-the-court transgressions last season that cost him four games."

"Then there were the sudden departures last year of Les??™ top two assistant coaches ??” Steve Merfeld in December and Eric Buescher following the season. "

I think the answers are clear and Dave Reynolds has figured it out --

[dogsrus]

I think the answers are clear and Dave Reynolds has figured it out --

Reynolds says we haven't had a team in contention for the crown in the second half of ANY season...


But we were told BU has ALWAYS contended but got beat out by better teams.


Since Reynolds statment is a fact and the other pure spin I'll say THAT is, to me, the SINGLE most disapointing thing in the last 9 years. To not contend for the title late into ANY season means we aren't getting it done.

Lets change that THIS year.....