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  • Buy into WHAT???

    This is just a question, not an opinion. We keep hearing that these Bradley players don't "buy in." But into what? Does BU have some secret plan? Some schematic that only BU players are privy to? Or is IT just the concept of team or hard work or defense? If it's any of the latter three we seem to be in big trouble.

    But I don't know. It's like when politicians say "I believe in the American people." What the @#$! does that mean? It's the same with "they haven't bought in." To WHAT? What is this "system" they haven't bought into?

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    I guess they have not bought into Les"s system along with all the other teams he has coached on defense, I think maybe the system is broken and needs to be changed , his defensive schemes have not worked so it is time to do an overhaul.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by real fan View Post
      I guess they have not bought into Les"s system along with all the other teams he has coached on defense, I think maybe the system is broken and needs to be changed , his defensive schemes have not worked so it is time to do an overhaul.
      How bout we stick with the ZONE that works so well!!!
      ... At the end, of the storm, there's a golden sky. And the sweet silver song of the lark. Walk on, through the wind, walk on, through the rain, though your dreams be tossed, and blown. Walk on, Walk on with hope in your hearts, and you'll never walk alone!
      I'm behind you 100% Bradley Braves, You'll Never Walk Alone! BEAT STATE!

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      • #4
        I can tell you one thing. I'm not buying in either, coach....I'm just a fan, but I sure am not buying in. Just on former BU student's opinion here!!

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        • #5
          Still waiting for any answer to a question that should be pretty basic. Does anyone know what these guys haven't bought into?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by brocks View Post
            Still waiting for any answer to a question that should be pretty basic. Does anyone know what these guys haven't bought into?
            the defensive effort

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            • #7
              I can tell you that I have never really bought into his gimmick defense...

              Other than having POB and sticking him down at the block like a normal 5 man, he came up with this absolutely ridiculous (and that's what it is) system where our 4's and 5's chase 25 feet from the goal and not only puts us at a rebounding disadvantage and a help defense disadvantage, but it has allowed more putback baskets and wide open 3's than a middle school pickup game...

              Yet for some reason after many poor defensive teams all around and stats that show the glaring weaknesses in his sets, and even with different players coming and going, he continues to point his finger at the players...

              Maybe it's not the players within the system coach, maybe it's the system built around these players...

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              • #8
                Our defensive scheme is not bad with the right personnel. The problem is that everyone has to be on the same page for it to work. It also works wonder when your PG can play in your face D on the opposing PG and a big that loves to rebound. We also need a player that loves to get dirty and do all the little things that do not show up in the stats.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SFP View Post
                  Our defensive scheme is not bad with the right personnel. The problem is that everyone has to be on the same page for it to work. It also works wonder when your PG can play in your face D on the opposing PG and a big that loves to rebound. We also need a player that loves to get dirty and do all the little things that do not show up in the stats.
                  So you're ok with our center being pulled 25 ft from the basket to commit dumb fouls, play on ball d, help on screens, and be in no position to rebound

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SFP View Post
                    Our defensive scheme is not bad with the right personnel. The problem is that everyone has to be on the same page for it to work. It also works wonder when your PG can play in your face D on the opposing PG and a big that loves to rebound. We also need a player that loves to get dirty and do all the little things that do not show up in the stats.
                    I disagree with your statement because opposing teams get way too many wide open 3 pointers against us and have for years, our bigs go way out at the top of the circle double teaming only to try and scramble back to hopefully keep their man from making a layup, our guards leave their man to give inside help which in turn gives their man a wide open shot , when players of the opposing team seem to have season high in points for the game something is clearly wrong, of course with the right personnel you could do just about anything but we need to change our schemes to fit our personnel because the system is flawed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      the defensive effort
                      Thanks coach. I was afraid of that, but good to know.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by brocks View Post
                        This is just a question, not an opinion. We keep hearing that these Bradley players don't "buy in." But into what? Does BU have some secret plan? Some schematic that only BU players are privy to? Or is IT just the concept of team or hard work or defense? If it's any of the latter three we seem to be in big trouble.

                        But I don't know. It's like when politicians say "I believe in the American people." What the @#$! does that mean? It's the same with "they haven't bought in." To WHAT? What is this "system" they haven't bought into?
                        Its comical...really

                        These players have thrown what in my opinion is a not a great coach, under the bus.

                        So Coach Les says "if the jr's and seniors don't step up they will sit"

                        Well Andrew Warren, why are you talking about anything, when so much of the problem revolves around you.

                        The scary part for me is:

                        This team defense is likely to get worse when Sammy and Taylor get back, not better.
                        (sammy's feet problems are likely to have him somewhat out of shape and effect his lateral movement; taylor is taylor, and working on the nba draft)

                        And a little secret....every year, sometime during the year, Coach Les gives the if they don't play D they wont play.

                        And Coach Les only really stuck to it one time, with Cellus, and eventually he went on to have his best stretch as a Brave and went to a sweet 16.

                        I would sit Andrew for as long as it takes.

                        And no I absolutely don't care about his 26 points. I care about one thing, winning basketball games, against teams that play at the MVC level or better

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by srw View Post
                          The scary part for me is:

                          This team is likely to get worse when Sammy and Taylor get back, not better.
                          How the heck do you figure that? I think those are the two best players on the team. To me it's not even a question. How could we possibly get worse with them playing?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by srw View Post
                            I care about one thing, winning basketball games, against teams that play at the MVC level or better
                            Well, we are undefeated against those teams so far this year.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by srw View Post
                              I would sit Andrew for as long as it takes.

                              And no I absolutely don't care about his 26 points. I care about... ...winning basketball games
                              I really agree with this. I care about more than winning basketball games (unfortunately I think I'm in the minority on this), but I really think all the praise AW gets goes to his head. I like AW and think he can be a great player for us. But after his comments from KW, and his lackluster play in MVC last year, I get very frustrated with him. I question how much he's had to work for 'it,' I see a guy who talent-wise and athletically could really set himself apart from the other players in the MVC, let alone our team. But it's just not clicking, he seems to 'play lazy' to me, and scores tons, except when it's a close game.

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