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  • #46
    Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
    Oh boy. You said a lot there. It depends on how good he is compared to how good his replacement is. I don't think we know enough at this time. I'm not a huge Bulls guy buy I think that Rose's replacement is a greater step down in talent to him than Sam's replacement.

    So there's a three page thread about an injury that is at this point hypothetical...

    The Quincy game can't get here quick enough.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
      So there's a three page thread about an injury that is at this point hypothetical...

      The Quincy game can't get here quick enough.
      Lol good call.
      My sports blog.

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      • #48
        You play the hand you are dealt and injuries are part of that equation. Does anyone recall how we discovered SM was capable as a replacement at the PG position. It wasn't because he beat out DR, it was because DR was injured. Last year we discovered DSE & JE's potential because they logged more minutes in replacement of DD.

        There have been consistent injuries to players on the hilltop from the time JL has coached here & sometimes he's overcome them and other he's succumb to them. Every fan has different expectations and looks at the BU b-ball team with their own perspective, some will never be happy with the results and some will always feel satisfied or put a positive spin on where the program is going. You all know who you are so is there a reason we antagonize people who basically are wanting the same thing? I've never quite understood that mentality from either side. Left or right, postive or negative, if you share a common goal, who cares!

        SM has spent the whole summer in Peoria working out and going through drills and if this injury is chronic and is simply a continuation from last year, then I'm guessing he'll play through it (just the kind of kid I believe he is), but if this is something that will heal with a little time and rehab, I believe of all years, this is one where BU has the depth to sustain until he returns. If they determine to fully heal, he needs to be inactive for a long period of time, it would sure be nice to have an all-valley guard next year. That said, I'd prefer to have him this year. Get better SM!!

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        • #49
          Sam is not our best player. he may be our toughest, but he's not our best.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
            Sam is not our best player. he may be our toughest, but he's not our best.
            Voters disagree, last season, and this pre-season. He was captain his junior year, averaged more during MVC play than anyone, is the unquestioned leader, and undoubtedly the guy you want taking the last shot in a game... If you don't think Sam is our best player, I argue you're not look at the right things. Is he as 'athletic' (we all know what that really means) as TB or AW? No. But ask any coach who they want on their team, they won't even have to think.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
              Sam is not our best player. he may be our toughest, but he's not our best.

              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
              Voters disagree, last season, and this pre-season. He was captain his junior year, averaged more during MVC play than anyone, is the unquestioned leader, and undoubtedly the guy you want taking the last shot in a game... If you don't think Sam is our best player, I argue you're not look at the right things. Is he as 'athletic' (we all know what that really means) as TB or AW? No. But ask any coach who they want on their team, they won't even have to think.
              Now this is an interesting debate. How do you judge the best player? Are you judging overall talent? Physical? Mental? Best teammate?

              A lot of things go into this debate.
              When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                Now this is an interesting debate. How do you judge the best player? Are you judging overall talent? Physical? Mental? Best teammate?

                A lot of things go into this debate.
                how can any assessment of "best player" be along purely objective or definable criteria -- it's always going to have subjectivity, thus ..
                it's the same as asking about someone's favority movie or favorite food --
                there really doesn't need to be an explanation and so people can name who they think is "best player" by whatever criteria they so choose......

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                • #53
                  We recruitied Sam as a point guard.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                    Now this is an interesting debate. How do you judge the best player? Are you judging overall talent? Physical? Mental? Best teammate?

                    A lot of things go into this debate.
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    how can any assessment of "best player" be along purely objective or definable criteria -- it's always going to have subjectivity, thus ..
                    it's the same as asking about someone's favority movie or favorite food --
                    there really doesn't need to be an explanation and so people can name who they think is "best player" by whatever criteria they so choose......
                    I agree with both of these statements. IMO it's not close, but if someone thinks TB is our best player, they wouldn't be 'wrong' per se.

                    (But not as right as me )

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
                      Sam is not our best player. he may be our toughest, but he's not our best.
                      Most of us posters thought Sammy was deserving of 1st-team MVC. Was there any other player that was deserving of that for us?
                      He was our best player last season, and should be considered our best heading into this season until someone proves he is better.
                      Respect is earned, not given.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                        Most of us posters thought Sammy was deserving of 1st-team MVC. Was there any other player that was deserving of that for us?
                        He was our best player last season, and should be considered our best heading into this season until someone proves he is better.
                        Respect is earned, not given.
                        My thoughts exactly!
                        ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                        • #57
                          I agree that Sam is the heart of the team, but how many of you are and were confident every time he was the go-to guy at the end of games last year and at the end of halfs. How many times did he actually convert? More often than not, his shot didn't fall as the last attempt. Not saying that its all his fault. Every opponent knew he was getting the ball. And it's a great point that respect is earned, not given. That's why the best player on the floor hasnt gotten it yet. Talent-wise, there's no question TB is the best player, no question. His physical skills are far superior. He just lacks Sam's mental toughness and overall awareness of his importance to the team(i.e leadership ability) . Sam is below average defensively(gets his doors blown off quite a bit actually),causing more weak side help issues than we have the personnel to compensate for unless Jim changes his system. I think Sam is the best leader but there are other people that can be floor generals in his absence. TB"s athleticism and ability to score at will from almost anywhere on the floor make him the most dangerous and best weapon we have

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
                            I agree that Sam is the heart of the team, but how many of you are and were confident every time he was the go-to guy at the end of games last year and at the end of halfs. How many times did he actually convert? More often than not, his shot didn't fall as the last attempt. Not saying that its all his fault. Every opponent knew he was getting the ball. And it's a great point that respect is earned, not given. That's why the best player on the floor hasnt gotten it yet. Talent-wise, there's no question TB is the best player, no question. His physical skills are far superior. He just lacks Sam's mental toughness and overall awareness of his importance to the team(i.e leadership ability) . Sam is below average defensively(gets his doors blown off quite a bit actually),causing more weak side help issues than we have the personnel to compensate for unless Jim changes his system. I think Sam is the best leader but there are other people that can be floor generals in his absence. TB"s athleticism and ability to score at will from almost anywhere on the floor make him the most dangerous and best weapon we have
                            Which is why I'm picking TB to make MVC 1st team this year. Let's hope he's all about winning games though and doing whatever it takes to make that happen - not just scoring-wise.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
                              I agree that Sam is the heart of the team, but how many of you are and were confident every time he was the go-to guy at the end of games last year and at the end of halfs. How many times did he actually convert? More often than not, his shot didn't fall as the last attempt. Not saying that its all his fault. Every opponent knew he was getting the ball. And it's a great point that respect is earned, not given. That's why the best player on the floor hasnt gotten it yet. Talent-wise, there's no question TB is the best player, no question. His physical skills are far superior. He just lacks Sam's mental toughness and overall awareness of his importance to the team(i.e leadership ability) . Sam is below average defensively(gets his doors blown off quite a bit actually),causing more weak side help issues than we have the personnel to compensate for unless Jim changes his system. I think Sam is the best leader but there are other people that can be floor generals in his absence. TB"s athleticism and ability to score at will from almost anywhere on the floor make him the most dangerous and best weapon we have

                              Just as there is no question the MVP of the team is Sam. Maurice Clarett was talented, Danny Grainger was talented, P'Allen Stinnet was talented, JaMarcus Russel was talent. Talent gets you 10% of the way, 'Athleticism' can get you maybe anoher 10%. At the end of the day, it comes down to who wants it. I like TB's talent, but to suggest he is more valuable than Sam, with Sam's leadership and work ethic, and TB's off-the-court issues is the thinking that creates dynasties like the '05-'10 Oakland Raiders.

                              Talent and athleticism-wise Michael Vick and JaMarcus Russel far exceed Peyton Manning. I'll take Peyton manning.

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