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  • #61
    Let's face it KW is trying to stir up more brown stuff and does not like JL and will do anything to see him not have a good time. I wonder what JL did to him? No really.

    On another note what was quoted from AW is not really that big of a deal. The players already know this. They also know they can't afford to play another year of "ME" first basketball, at least I hope. Anyone who watched last years team new there was an under current of issues. I just hope this team has the chemistry and maturity to put that aside and have their goals to play as a team because that is the only way to become a winner. The old saying is that there is no "I" in TEAM!
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    • #62
      Just to be clear, I do not contest anything the article said, because I would have no idea true or not, just saying I don't like the timing of coming out with negative stuff at the precipice of a potentially good season, and it is twice now that KW has done that in the last few weeks.
      Last edited by Buesch N Chips; 10-30-2010, 01:23 PM. Reason: grammar

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      • #63
        Originally posted by VeveJones007 View Post
        No it wouldn't. He got that quote from a CAPTAIN on the team. I can't believe so many people on here don't think that a captain making that statement about his team isn't news in and of itself or that it requires further examination other than asking "who?" which I'm sure KW did.

        If Jay Cutler had the same quote, it would be HUGE news in and of itself. If Derrick Rose had the same quote, it would be be the same. The media wouldn't have to go to other guys to corroborate the story because they got it from a guy in a leadership position. You have a captain of the team calling out other teammates and probably himself. That's a really important piece of information to get to the public if it's disclosed, no matter the timing.
        That is entirely different. You're talking about pro's who have access to media everyday and are pro athletes versus college students who rarely speak to the media and play a sport as an extra-curricular activity.

        You think he would have got the same quote from Sam or Dodie? KW knew exactly who to ask to get the quote he wanted, set it up, and did so.

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        • #64
          1st off this was a short blog...not a column. KW opens it up saying he was talking to AW about a column he is writing for the HOOPS section later in November.

          2nd....AW is quoted making a comment about the team not all being on the same page last year. KW then responds to that quote. It was pretty clear to me that is was KW responding to the quote. I didn't think it was AW or another player responding to the quote.

          My take from it was simple. Last year, some guys were more worried about the "ME" and not the "WE". That is a wasted year. You have the talent to accomplish some things and guys chose to be selfish. AW is did the right thing. He didn't call anyone out by name, he didn't point fingers, he didn't do during the season. He is saying, we have the chance to be good, but "We" have to buy into what the coaches want.
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          • #65
            -ligature marks
            -battered with hands and feet
            -BU never made an effort to explain their building plans
            -renegade program
            -buyout
            -Manual Cass verbals to BU
            -JW verbals to U of I
            -TB stalking his rival
            -TCS getting nasty e mails, phone calls, and text messages, none of which were ever seen
            -Bruce Weber used the "N" word in talking to and about the Chicago coaches
            -JL on the hot seat
            -turmoil all abounding on the hilltop
            -steaming pile of 2-guard

            ...just how many times do we see reports that are patently false, inaccurate, and exaggerated..only to have alibis, excuses, and occasional apologies given later?
            Our local press has NOT convinced me they are reliable and believable -- so you take what they write FWIW --
            I believe we see it more in our media market than anywhere else outside of the National Enquirer

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            • #66
              First of all I thought it was wrong to speculate on the names of players A.W. may or may not be talking about as it is not fair to these players or the team as a whole, this is the wrong thing to do to start a season with and I hope someone understands now why you do not say team only things to the press as now rumors have started over this mess, clean it up now and get down to the business of winning games as a team.
              I do not know if K.W. is out to make BU look bad but I do believe he does not like coach Les and the way he was hired which is kind of an unfair thing as Les did not control his hiring.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                -ligature marks
                -battered with hands and feet
                -BU never made an effort to explain their building plans
                -renegade program
                -buyout
                -Manual Cass verbals to BU
                -JW verbals to U of I
                -TB stalking his rival
                -TCS getting nasty e mails, phone calls, and text messages, none of which were ever seen
                -Bruce Weber used the "N" word in talking to and about the Chicago coaches
                -JL on the hot seat
                -turmoil all abounding on the hilltop
                -steaming pile of 2-guard

                ...just how many times do we see reports that are patently false, inaccurate, and exaggerated..only to have alibis, excuses, and occasional apologies given later?
                Our local press has NOT convinced me they are reliable and believable -- so you take what they write FWIW --
                I believe we see it more in our media market than anywhere else outside of the National Enquirer
                Wow tornado. That's a pretty impressive list of stuff with great detail. What do you have, a folder on your computer with all of KW's negative articles with all of the "bad stuff" highlighted in bold? You should have been in the CIA.

                I wouldn't want to get on your bad side.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by lefty View Post
                  actually the book says you get the wrong people off the bus and the right people on it.....which I think would be up to the coach....and if the coach is the issue then it's up to the AD and if the AD is the problem it's up to the Prez.
                  Now it's been a couple of years since reading the book so correct me here if I'm wrong Pete. I think this being brought up by AW should make the rest of the team sit up and take notice if the haven't already.
                  I agree with SFP. Although it's sad to have to find this out, I think it's better now than in the middle of the season or the end of the season or the beginning of next year's season. I think it also makes a difference on how many players don't want to get on the bus. If it's 2 or 3, sit them as long as it takes. BU lost with them. We can lose without them also. If the majority of the players don't agree with the coach, maybe then it's time for a change; but I get the feeling it's just 2 or 3 that think they are "important". If we go to a more balanced team this year and not 4 guards, I think we will have better results. If you keep doing the same thing year after year, all you're going to get is the same thing year after year.

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                  • #69
                    all I am going to say is I am NOT buying into this at all....
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                    • #70
                      BTW...If what AW said hurts anyones feeling then I say they have to grow some circular devices and probably should not be playing on this team. This team needs to man up to their mistakes plain and simple.

                      Forget what KW says because IMHO the guy dances around the subject and acts like a bunch of guys, who live in The Castro (a SF neighborhood). He just needs to say what he really feels.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by amettrick View Post
                        I realize that several people on this board don't care for KW, and that's fine, what you think of him shouldn't matter at all in this discussion, but as always, that's the first thing everyone jumps to. For no reason I might add.

                        The discussion here should actually be pretty simple. AW admitted that the team had some players not buying into the team concept and that hurt them in the long run. Unless you're completely niave, you knew this was the case anyway. It was just confirmation of what we already knew.

                        From there, KW simply offered his opinion on what some of those problems were, and that if we avoid them this year the team should be pretty ****ed good. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that?

                        Its almost silly how quickly some people jump to conclusions around here.


                        Well said......

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                          Just to be clear, I do not contest anything the article said, because I would have no idea true or not, just saying I don't like the timing of coming out with negative stuff at the precipice of a potentially good season, and it is twice now that KW has done that in the last few weeks.
                          Thats fair and I understand it but should he have just kept it quiet.....? He did a harmless story with AW and THIS is what he got.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by bigdaddystuck View Post
                            1st off this was a short blog...not a column. KW opens it up saying he was talking to AW about a column he is writing for the HOOPS section later in November.

                            2nd....AW is quoted making a comment about the team not all being on the same page last year. KW then responds to that quote. It was pretty clear to me that is was KW responding to the quote. I didn't think it was AW or another player responding to the quote.

                            My take from it was simple. Last year, some guys were more worried about the "ME" and not the "WE". That is a wasted year. You have the talent to accomplish some things and guys chose to be selfish. AW is did the right thing. He didn't call anyone out by name, he didn't point fingers, he didn't do during the season. He is saying, we have the chance to be good, but "We" have to buy into what the coaches want.
                            Stop being logical......it doesn't play well here.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                              Seriously dude, get off it. He never came close to saying anyone lied. And in terms of numbers, he never said one side was larger than the other, only that others were confused. For as much as you accuse others of spin, IMO you are clearly the worst poster on the site at doing that and it's not even close.

                              It is abundantly clear KW does not like JL, and his articles exhibit that. That's his opinion. What KW does is no different from your or my posts on here, except he should be held to a higher standard. He consistently represents his opinions as fact without expressly stating such. I have no problem with editorials, there is a place and purpose for those, what KW does however, is try to make his editorials look like 'traditional' articles, which is deceptive and DOES break standard journalistic integrity.


                              Huh....

                              Read again..."dude"....he says at least DOZEN posters disagree to show I"M in the minority (his words) then quotes only 11 with 5 quotes coming from the SAME 2 guys and 3 posts coming NO where even close to supporting his side. So you are wrong..his rebuttal was to show one side WAS indeed "larger then the other".

                              His words...blasphemy...fabricated..... and YOU say thats not "even close to saying someone lied.....OK if you say so.

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                              • #75
                                My being bummed out on BU 2010 BB already over:

                                *AW commnts on the BU team being disfunctional last year
                                *T's comment about some BU starters possibly not playing in the opening exhibition

                                was obviously, well maybe not to some, a little over the top..

                                I knew it was too good to be true BU couldn't have at least made it to the regular season before discussions about player injuries, and awkward player comments about team chemistry, came up.

                                The combination of these two subjects, along with the mysterious post by Mr. T about certain starters from last year possibly not starting/playing in the opening exhibition game, resulted in paranoia/hysteria that this year could end up like the past serveral seasons, "Great Expectations" followed by "Paradise Lost"....

                                You know the old joke, 'I'm really not paranoid, its just that there are people
                                out there trying to get me!'....
                                BUilding for the Future

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