Chasson Randle to Stanford

[tornado]

... did I mention all the Nobel prize winners, Supreme Court Justices and I can go on.

Hey -- as prestigious as Stanford is in this regard -- believe it or NOT they don't hold any advantage over University of Illinois!!

U of I has 21 different Nobel Prize winners among their alumni and faculty!! (Stanford has a mere 16!)
also -- Illinois has 20 Pulitzer winners (Stanford has only four!!)
also --more than 2 dozen Illinois grads became University Presidents - and the honors go on and on and more than equal or exceed those of Stanford!!
.... AND they have Hugh Hefner...

So brag all you want about Stanford, but I have yet to see anything more than just opinion that they are any better than Illinois...so show some facts...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Illinois_at_Urbana%E2%80%93Champaign_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford#Notable_alumni.2C_faculty.2C_and_staff

[amckillip]

Hey -- as prestigious as Stanford is in this regard -- believe it or NOT they don't hold any advantage over University of Illinois!!

U of I has 21 different Nobel Prize winners among their alumni and faculty!! (Stanford has a mere 16!)
also -- Illinois has 20 Pulitzer winners (Stanford has only four!!)
also --more than 2 dozen grads became University Presidents, and they have Hugh Hefner...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Illinois_at_Urbana%E2%80%93Champaign_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanfor...y.2C_and_staff

They hold a HUGE advantage over U of I, maybe not in pure Nobel Laureates or pulltizers. But this should say enough...

http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/09/21/worlds-best-universities-top-400-.html

Look at #13. U of I? #63. U of I is lower in the other polls.

[tornado]

but as I said -- that's just based on OPINION...and everyone's welcome to theirs...
Those "scores" they base it on are largely just what people think....I gave numbers and facts...

[amckillip]

but as I said -- that's just based on OPINION...and everyone's welcome to theirs...
Those "scores" they base it on are largely just what people think....I gave numbers and facts...

When I go to get a job or go to grad school the OPINION of my school, is exactly what I care about. If I need to, I can go get the starting salaries and acceptance rates of Stanford grads vs. U of I grads...

[amckillip]

Hey -- as prestigious as Stanford is in this regard -- believe it or NOT they don't hold any advantage over University of Illinois!!

U of I has 21 different Nobel Prize winners among their alumni and faculty!! (Stanford has a mere 16!)
also -- Illinois has 20 Pulitzer winners (Stanford has only four!!)
also --more than 2 dozen Illinois grads became University Presidents - and the honors go on and on and more than equal or exceed those of Stanford!!
.... AND they have Hugh Hefner...

So brag all you want about Stanford, but I have yet to see anything more than just opinion that they are any better than Illinois...so show some facts...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ampaign_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanfor...y.2C_and_staff

BTW, proportionately Stanford has more Nobel Laureates than U of I seeing as U of I has 50% more faculty (and yet they have 150% more students... giving Stanford students much better access to said faculty).

Stanford MBA - #3 in Starting Salary.

U of I doesn't crack the top 40.

http://officialmbaguide.org/top40.php?rnk=salary

Standford - #7 Overall Mid-Career Salary

U of I - Somewhere around 65

http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp

Stanford - #12 Overall Starting Salary

U of I - Somewhere around 55

Same site.

Facts enough?

[wizard1]

Chasson Randle to Stanford

A coupe of observations regarding Stanford vs Illinois---

First, the weather in the Bay area November thru March is just a little better than Champaign.

Secondly, The bay area is a lot more interesting and exciting to live in or go to school in than Champaign.

California girls vs Illinois farm girls?

Illinois is a great school academically but Stanford is awesome.

[Future Walk-On]

I am not getting into the which school is better academically or which has nicer weather.

I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.

[bugregshu]

I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.

Given the fact that 1.3% of college basketball players go pro, I'd take Stanford over Illinois in a heartbeat given a free ride. No question. If you are interviewing two people with absolutely equal credentials, but one has a Stanford diploma and the other has an Illinois diploma, who do you take? And if Stanford is a so-called "bad team in a bad conference", then can we assume that the Missouri Valley is also a "bad conference", since they seem to be fairly comparable these days?

[MacabreMob]

Stanford has an NCAA Championship in basketball, UIUC does not.

Also - Tiger Woods went to Stanford.

[amckillip]

I am not getting into the which school is better academically or which has nicer weather.

I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.

Haha, then why would a player ever choose Illinois for football? Why would a player EVER choose BU over a BCS school? In the last five years U of I less NCAA games than BU... Not to mention Stanford has won more as well, they're just a couple years removed from a Sweet 16 appearance and they have big-time football. U of I is not nearly as mighty as you make them seem.

[theBUer]

Here in Illinois, the U of I is very much regarded as an Ivy League-like school. It's one of those places where many dream of going, and even the intelligent kids that I knew back in HS were on pins and needles to wait if they got into UIUC.

But I went to the Princeton Review site, and interestingly enough both BU and UIUC have the same admissions rate, around 64%.

I can't understand why people are trying to make UIUC vs. Stanford a competition. Illinois can't compete with proximity to ocean or mountains, c'mon. You're not going to die in Champaign-Urbana.

[Future Walk-On]

Given the fact that 1.3% of college basketball players go pro, I'd take Stanford over Illinois in a heartbeat given a free ride. No question. If you are interviewing two people with absolutely equal credentials, but one has a Stanford diploma and the other has an Illinois diploma, who do you take? And if Stanford is a so-called "bad team in a bad conference", then can we assume that the Missouri Valley is also a "bad conference", since they seem to be fairly comparable these days?

Once again I am talking about basketball. Most kids as freshman still have the NBA dream......if this kid doesn't....that is fine. I AM NOT arguing schools academically...if you want to go to the NCAA's and possibly deep into the tournament....and get tons of exposure....for a possible chance to be in the league....you do not choose Stanford over Illinois. I am not saying Illinois is the biggest program...but if you are down to those two....it is pretty obvious....if you want to focus on school then no crap, Stanford.

So Randle obviously isn't interested in going deep in the tourney, playing 20 games on national television, etc....

Illinois groomed the best PG in the NBA.

I can't assume that Illinois is going to do all this.....but looking at the way Illinois' program is going on paper...odds are pretty good.

Haha, then why would a player ever choose Illinois for football? Why would a player EVER choose BU over a BCS school? In the last five years U of I less NCAA games than BU... Not to mention Stanford has won more as well, they're just a couple years removed from a Sweet 16 appearance and they have big-time football. U of I is not nearly as mighty as you make them seem.

1. Have you seen how successful former Illinois players are in the NFL....?

2. How many kids have chosen BU over a big time BCS school? Name them.

How many kids have come to BU that have a GREAT chance of going to the NBA?

U of I is hands down the best basketball option at this time. Over Stanford.

[tornado]

A coupe of observations regarding Stanford vs Illinois---...Illinois is a great school academically but Stanford is awesome.

wiz -- to each his own -- and I never said a thing negative about Stanford, but here's what was said...

Name another school with the academic excellence offered by Stanford...the number of Olympians....... the Nobel prize winners, Supreme Court Justices...

So I did, I named another school with similar academic excellence, and even MORE Nobel Prize Winners...
that's all....I personally believe that Stanford gets hyped over and above Illinois for reasons that are more subjective than objective, but I doubt all employers who are looking at two equal candidates are gonna say -- well but this one is from Stanford so he gets the nod..

More computer technology and even the thing you're looking at (the LED technology) are all inventions and development from U of I. In many respoects the highjer rankings Stanford gets is due to how much more exclusive they are on acceptance standards..whereas, Illinois tries to accomodate more students...

[bugregshu]

if you want to go to the NCAA's and possibly deep into the tournament....and get tons of exposure....for a possible chance to be in the league....you do not choose Stanford over Illinois.

Don't you think it's more about how good the individual is? If he has NBA skills, he will be in the NBA, regardless of what school he goes to. A FREE Stanford education is a bonus.

"It's too bad those Lopez twins chose Stanford... now they'll NEVER be in the NBA!"

Wake Forest groomed the best PG in the NBA.

Fixed... and I think Deron Williams being good has less to do with Illinois and more to do with him just being good...

[amckillip]

I can't assume that Illinois is going to do all this.....but looking at the way Illinois' program is going on paper...odds are pretty good.

BU has looked to be going the right way on paper for about 6 years. Doesn't make it so. I'm not saying U of I isn't better, but it's not nearly as lobsided as you make it. Just a short while ago Bruce was on the hot seat. And he hasn't produced anything since. Since the '05 run U of I has been middle of the pack Big Ten at best. MSU, WU, OSU, PU etc. have all been the better Big Ten teams. And I've grown up a U of I fan, but I have not been impressed by Bruce Webber since he's had his own players, at all.