BU picked 5th? yet has 3 players in the all conf world

[patrick_o'brian]

No beating around the bush. They don't respect Coach Les! Here's to an MVC championship year and a mouth full of boot for these voters! GO BRAVES!

[tornado]

... press people in The Valley. ....

Braves4Life --I note your avatar is the front of the MVC Media Guide...and a very similar picture also graces the front on the Brochure that promotes
the MVC Tournament this March and details ticket plans and order forms...(except the brochure has Andrew Warren!)

so isn't it odd that they choose only FIVE teams to grace the fronts of those publications and leave ISU, InSU, Drake, SIU, and Evansville out of the picture altogether!!

Is this a reward for being the top 5 teams in the early preseason previews??
Is this a new MVC strategy that only the top 5 Valley teams as viewed by those who write about the Valley get their pics on the following season's publications?
it certainly doesn't have anything to do with their finishes last year or else they'd have ISU pictured with OE -- but it's clear they want some element of current players shown..
I have to kinda think it is..........

[dogsrus]

And did you notice...all the guys are in home whites EXCEPT SM whos wearing Black.....Hmmmmmmm....whats up with that?

[thefish7]

And did you notice...all the guys are in home whites EXCEPT SM whos wearing Black.....Hmmmmmmm....whats up with that?

He must be an impostor, a la fake Paul McCartney. I heard if you listen to MVC Shuffle backwards you can hear Andrew Warren say "I buried Sam." Or something like that.

[LittleBrave]

And did you notice...all the guys are in home whites EXCEPT SM whos wearing Black.....Hmmmmmmm....whats up with that?

It just sets apart the MVC POY from the rest of them.

[LittleBrave]

Agree...thats the best way to get respect. Go earn it guys......

Latest tweet from Coach Les:
Pikd 5th in Valley..Sammy all lge/ AW and TB hon mention...respect is earned not given

Not sure what this exactly means - could be:
A) AW and TB have to earn 1st team honors by their play this season.
B) He feels the league has given BU guys respect for placing 3 of BU's guys in top 10 in league.
C) 5th place prediction is understandable - they must finish higher to earn respect in the league.

[dogsrus]

It just sets apart the MVC POY from the rest of them.

Sounds good....

[thefish7]

Latest tweet from Coach Les:
Pikd 5th in Valley..Sammy all lge/ AW and TB hon mention...respect is earned not given

Not sure what this exactly means - could be:
A) AW and TB have to earn 1st team honors by their play this season.
B) He feels the league has given BU guys respect for placing 3 of BU's guys in top 10 in league.
C) 5th place prediction is understandable - they must finish higher to earn respect in the league.

I feel like Les meant this as motivation, i.e. you haven't earned as much respect as you could have.

[Braves4Life]

Braves4Life --I note your avatar is the front of the MVC Media Guide...and a very similar picture also graces the front on the Brochure that promotes
the MVC Tournament this March and details ticket plans and order forms...(except the brochure has Andrew Warren!)

so isn't it odd that they choose only FIVE teams to grace the fronts of those publications and leave ISU, InSU, Drake, SIU, and Evansville out of the picture altogether!!

Is this a reward for being the top 5 teams in the early preseason previews??
Is this a new MVC strategy that only the top 5 Valley teams as viewed by those who write about the Valley get their pics on the following season's publications?
it certainly doesn't have anything to do with their finishes last year or else they'd have ISU pictured with OE -- but it's clear they want some element of current players shown..
I have to kinda think it is..........

These 5 were the MVC 1st Team All-MVC......

[tornado]

These 5 were the MVC 1st Team All-MVC......

The Missouri State guy pictured there is Adam Leonard --
and Leonard is not on the 1st Team...

But even if it was the exact same five guys as on the 1st team All Conference --
would they have known that enough in advance to have gotten those printed up that way?
I seem to recall that the voters ballots for the MVC All-Conf teams weren't required turned in until only about a week ago.
Fancy Media Guides like that would have to have been set up several weeks ago -- and surely they would not have had all the ballots in and so they must have simply chosed those five guys for the cover independent of the balloting.

Same goes for the brochures I mentioned that allow you to order tickets for Arch Madness...they show almost the exact same five players, except for Warren.

[AZ BU Fan]

I feel like Les meant this as motivation, i.e. you haven't earned as much respect as you could have.

There have been a couple times in the recent past with other JL teams they had put a pretty good run together and thought the world/MVC was theirs, only to crash back to earth.

Good idea to drill the point home, individual player accolades don't get MVC titles or NCAA bids.

The BU team/program has to walk the talk.

[tornado]

The Missouri State guy pictured there is Adam Leonard --
and Leonard is not on the 1st Team...

But even if it was the exact same five guys as on the 1st team All Conference --
would they have known that enough in advance to have gotten those printed up that way?
I seem to recall that the voters ballots for the MVC All-Conf teams weren't required turned in until only about a week ago.
Fancy Media Guides like that would have to have been set up several weeks ago -- and surely they would not have had all the ballots in and so they must have simply chosed those five guys for the cover independent of the balloting.

Same goes for the brochures I mentioned that allow you to order tickets for Arch Madness...they show almost the exact same five players, except for Warren.

I just checked the Valley Arch Madness brochure..and as I noted the five guys pictured are from those same five teams -- UNI, CU, BU, WSU, and MSU -- but instead of Sammy it shows Andrew, and instead of Toure Murry for WSU it pictures Graham Hatch..

[srw]

This isn't anything new....

What do you mean Bradley10?

The other years we finished 4th or 5th?

Are you saying thats where we are finishing this year.

I see no way we can be worse than second.

We have 3 of the top 11 players

[AZ BU Fan]

Let's see...

11 divided by 3 = Third or Fourth Place for BU this year......

[srw]

Braves4Life --I note your avatar is the front of the MVC Media Guide...and a very similar picture also graces the front on the Brochure that promotes
the MVC Tournament this March and details ticket plans and order forms...(except the brochure has Andrew Warren!)

so isn't it odd that they choose only FIVE teams to grace the fronts of those publications and leave ISU, InSU, Drake, SIU, and Evansville out of the picture altogether!!

Is this a reward for being the top 5 teams in the early preseason previews??
Is this a new MVC strategy that only the top 5 Valley teams as viewed by those who write about the Valley get their pics on the following season's publications?
it certainly doesn't have anything to do with their finishes last year or else they'd have ISU pictured with OE -- but it's clear they want some element of current players shown..
I have to kinda think it is..........

Great Point! It seems to me that the league should only be promoting the top 5, and I think that the most seen publication is the mens so I agree with it