Red-White scrimmage

[dogsrus]

Dogsrus. . .a regular season game (given the type of opponent that would be played in the gym) would only draw marginally better than the scrimmage last night, bad day and time aside.

Just so I get this straight....you are saying a regular season game held at the Coliseum would draw "marginally" better then the reported 1700 from Sunday nite.

It would be an alltime low.....I went to a snow storm game and I think there 5000. Albecks last days still drew 6500.

IF only 2500-3000 came to the new place it would be a huge failure IMO.

I understand attendance is declining as we all saw last year but even our WORST attended game still drew 6000-6500 at the PCC did it not.

I just can't see only "marginally better" (then Sundays 1700) at the womens arena/mens practice facility for a mens reg. season game.

[mrcoachdude]

a regular season game there is a sellout..IMHO...last night was a combined scrimmage...nothing gets much uglier than an intra-squad scrimmage...it will be interesting to see what Quincy draws...

[Beninator]

Im from Missouri. "Show me"

I think they are better...And AT finally showed the ability to get to some offensive putbacks.

But he is slow off his feet, and his one block came off JP I believe which is troubling.

I agree with you regarding AT, however, I have seen enough out of Prosser to think that he should start.

[BradleyBrave]

Im from Missouri. "Show me"

I think they are better...And AT finally showed the ability to get to some offensive putbacks.

But he is slow off his feet, and his one block came off JP I believe which is troubling.

I wasn't there so I can't say anything one way or the other.

History has shown that red-white and the exhibition games are probably the worst times to try and assess what someone is going to be throughout the year. Memories of astonishing performances from JJ Tauai, Saihou Jassey, and Tyrone Cole-Scott are too fresh in my memory. All I am saying is for us to be good, AT and JP have to be good. Otherwise the same broken record will keep playing...

[LG281]

All I am saying is for us to be good, AT and JP have to be good. Otherwise the same broken record will keep playing...

Agreed!

[BU RICK]

All I am saying is for us to be good, AT and JP have to be good. Otherwise the same broken record will keep playing...

I agree too, LG beat me to it. We've got to play bigger to improve over what we've done the last few years. That means WE at the 4 and another big at the 5 with TB at the three. And teach the guards how to pass the ball into the post positions, at least 1-2 post passes per trip or come sit on the bench. Come up with different offensive plays other than what we've been running in the past few seasons.

[dogsrus]

I wasn't there so I can't say anything one way or the other.

History has shown that red-white and the exhibition games are probably the worst times to try and assess what someone is going to be throughout the year. Memories of astonishing performances from JJ Tauai, Saihou Jassey, and Tyrone Cole-Scott are too fresh in my memory. All I am saying is for us to be good, AT and JP have to be good. Otherwise the same broken record will keep playing...

While I agree BB whats "great" is the JP or AT didn't have a TSC type moment..... They both showed some promise and AT didn't look lost like he has been in the past.

AT has NO moves, somewhat poor hands but was active with some decent putbacks and didn't get knocked over like past years.

JP is going to develop into a fine player IMO.....the potential is there.

[amckillip]

I agree too, LG beat me to it. We've got to play bigger to improve over what we've done the last few years. That means WE at the 4 and another big at the 5 with TB at the three. And teach the guards how to pass the ball into the post positions, at least 1-2 post passes per trip or come sit on the bench. Come up with different offensive plays other than what we've been running in the past few seasons.

I disagree completely. BU's path to success this year does not in any way shape or form run through a scenario with WE, JP, and AT splitting 80 minutes a game. We just need real production out of the 5. I personally am not at all impressed with WE's play the past two years(really one year and 3 games). I think when TB comes out, we go with 2 'true bigs.' But being very deep at guard with SM, AW, DD, DSE, arguably JE, and WL looking to get some minutes, the 3-guard is where will BU will find success. Even BU's Sweet 16 run we played the 3-guard (with a smaller 3-guard). I agree we need better/more production from the 5, but asking DD and DSE to both come off the bench with 2 of AT, WE, and JP starting is not a good decision. We just need real production from the 5 and all fo TB's 'out' minutes should come from AT/JP (maybe playing the 5 with WE sliding over, etc.) instead of DSE.

[Toyota12]

scrimmage

I liked what i seen from Prosser last night!! He actually looks like he has a body built for the Big Ten..He has good hands, quick feet, set some good screens and can score around the bucket..Thompson on the other hand still after 3 years needs a lot of work to be able to compete in the valley and i hope i am wrong, a put back dunk in a scrimmage and 1 block that was probably goal tending did not impress me. Milos did not look to good at all imo! I still think with what i saw in the scrimmage that this team has the tools to compete for a valley title, with 3 of our best players sitting out you can see a lot of depth the kind you can build on during a long season!!

[real fan]

If you just look at the minutes played each of the past 3 years by NON-Guards for Bradley

2007-2008- 33% of total minutes
2008-2009- 36% of total minutes
2009-2010- 35% of total minutes

then you'd certainly have to figure that LESS than 40% of the total minutes again this year will go to non-guards..
that would mean 60 to 80 mpg....and you know both TB and WE, unless injured are going to get at least 50-60 of those minutes...

And Davis is at least 5th or 6th among non-guards in line for those minutes (Egolf, TB, Prosser, AT, MK would all likely be ahead of him)
I would thus forsee less than 6-8 mpg being available for Davis, and so he might make the decision.......

If we give too many minutes to our guards like the past 3 years then we end up just like the last 3 years playing at 2:30 , now that we have Egolf,Prosser and Brown plus Davis and Thonpson and Eastman we can play bigger lineups and not get hurt on the boards , I would think Egolf,Prosser,Brown and whatever 2 guards we decided to put on the floor would be a handful for most teams, but then that is just my observation coming from watching how we have not challenged for a title by playing 3 to 4 guards on the floor at the same time.

[BU RICK]

I've been looking for highlights of the red-white scrimmage but haven't found any on the Bradley or PJS site. Here's what the Illini did for their fans, Orange & Blue Highlights... http://www.fightingillini.com/sports...skbl-body.html Click on Top Videos to the right of Top Stories.

[amckillip]

If we give too many minutes to our guards like the past 3 years then we end up just like the last 3 years playing at 2:30 , now that we have Egolf,Prosser and Brown plus Davis and Thonpson and Eastman we can play bigger lineups and not get hurt on the boards , I would think Egolf,Prosser,Brown and whatever 2 guards we decided to put on the floor would be a handful for most teams, but then that is just my observation coming from watching how we have not challenged for a title by playing 3 to 4 guards on the floor at the same time.

I don't want to see 4 guards, agreed, but if you're counting on serious time from Davis, we're gonna be worse than 2:30.

[mrcoachdude]

As much as I would like to see WE TB and JP on the front line...they will probably have a 3 guard lineup along side TB and WE....then Sub w/ JP and AT....AD would benefit from a Redshirt...

Our strength is in our guards and we need to exploit that..but we need solid play from WE,JP and AT to be successful....

[Beninator]

I disagree completely. BU's path to success this year does not in any way shape or form run through a scenario with WE, JP, and AT splitting 80 minutes a game. We just need real production out of the 5. I personally am not at all impressed with WE's play the past two years(really one year and 3 games). I think when TB comes out, we go with 2 'true bigs.' But being very deep at guard with SM, AW, DD, DSE, arguably JE, and WL looking to get some minutes, the 3-guard is where will BU will find success. Even BU's Sweet 16 run we played the 3-guard (with a smaller 3-guard). I agree we need better/more production from the 5, but asking DD and DSE to both come off the bench with 2 of AT, WE, and JP starting is not a good decision. We just need real production from the 5 and all fo TB's 'out' minutes should come from AT/JP (maybe playing the 5 with WE sliding over, etc.) instead of DSE.

I was impressed with WE's play before the injury. I would prefer to see WE at the 4 as I think that he was playing out of position last year.

[Beninator]

As much as I would like to see WE TB and JP on the front line...they will probably have a 3 guard lineup along side TB and WE....then Sub w/ JP and AT....AD would benefit from a Redshirt...

Our strength is in our guards and we need to exploit that..but we need solid play from WE,JP and AT to be successful....

MCD, for some strange reason, I think that we will change up our style of play this year as compared to years past. Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part!