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  • #31
    Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
    I'm pretty sure the PJS does a pretty full story on BU MBB every fall, including the upcoming Valley season, and other teams in the Valley, a little closer to the start of the season - mid Nov? It might even be a special section which also includes U of ILL and other local college info. Rosters, player bios, pics, schedule, season outlook etc....

    I suppose people could quibble about the timing of the publication of this info by the PJS, who want this info as soon as practice starts in Oct. PJS has to balance coverage of BU MBB with MLB, NFL, Hockey, HS Football as well.

    Not that anyone on this Forum ever quibbles about anything BU MBB or the PJS..................
    So, basically what you are saying is that PJS has a job to do......and should just do it, right?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by cpacmel View Post

      So what makes them good fans? The fact that they are long-time season ticket holders? The fact that they donate money?
      That is very, very important, IMO.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
        So do you think the reason they ask about Les and being fired is because of the coverage of the PJ Star?
        Of course. Just a week ago we had a "Jim Les- coach on the hot seat" column and it wasn't the first time it's been mentioned by the PJS. In fact, the PJS is the only place where it has been mentioned publically where most fans would have seen it.




        Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
        So what makes them good fans? The fact that they are long-time season ticket holders? The fact that they donate money?
        It does not take either of your criteria to be a good fan. You just need to be pro-Bradley and support and follow the team.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
          So do you think the reason they ask about Les and being fired is because of the coverage of the PJ Star?
          ..
          I will answer that as well...

          yes, because that's exactly what they said and it's about all they've read...

          and

          YES, they are good fans who I know quite well as friends who are not only loyal and come to every game, they even follow on the road, and yes, they do give money...
          I have followed Bradley basketball for over 40 years and I think I may be qualified to tell good Bradley fans.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
            You really think so Ben...when I wasn't a message board geek/freak the story he just wrote was what I lived off of....and for the casual fan its the info they are looking for.
            Yes I do think this! I'll cite you DR's blog for example. The blog was pretty much written for the masses and to be bluntly honest, it is lame! However, IMO, DR has two stories within the blog that would be very interesting to even the most casual observer of BU hoops and the sports page of the PJS. One is Walter Lemon. A very good article/blog could have been written about Lemon in terms of the slam dunk contest, DR's observations in practice, how WL is adapting to college life and to division one hoops practice etc, and even incorporate quotes from JL or an assistant. That article would be far more creative and much more interesting to even the most casual of fans. The second article could be about WE, JP, and AT and how they spent the summer working out and bulking up for this coming season. A reporter could even ask the question of how the new facilities helped these players with their regiment to bulk up. I am not looking for in depth coverage of 'x's" and "o's" in practice etc, just for the PJS to write articles that are more creative which in turn would be more appealing to even the most casual of fans!
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Beninator View Post
              Yes I do think this! I'll cite you DR's blog for example. The blog was pretty much written for the masses and to be bluntly honest, it is lame! However, IMO, DR has two stories within the blog that would be very interesting to even the most casual observer of BU hoops and the sports page of the PJS. One is Walter Lemon. A very good article/blog could have been written about Lemon in terms of the slam dunk contest, DR's observations in practice, how WL is adapting to college life and to division one hoops practice etc, and even incorporate quotes from JL or an assistant. That article would be far more creative and much more interesting to even the most casual of fans. The second article could be about WE, JP, and AT and how they spent the summer working out and bulking up for this coming season. A reporter could even ask the question of how the new facilities helped these players with their regiment to bulk up. I am not looking for in depth coverage of 'x's" and "o's" in practice etc, just for the PJS to write articles that are more creative which in turn would be more appealing to even the most casual of fans!
              Thank you, Ben! I finally agree with you (except more detail about the practices...not necessarily in depth, but...something).

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              • #37
                I thought it was a good read. Nothing earth shattering, nothing that surprising for me.
                Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bigdaddystuck View Post
                  I thought it was a good read. Nothing earth shattering, nothing that surprising for me.
                  I think most of us feel the same way. I think that DR wants to continue giving us updates leading up to the 1st game. Maybe he saw something in JE during practice that made him think that he'll get some play at FW. He proved to me that he can rebound like a 6'7" guy with his heart and b-ball savvy.
                  I didn't know that WL could really make a difference this season, but DR's article verified what some posters believed that he could. Sounds like he will make the most of his opportunity, and could be a big factor like DSE was last season if circumstances are against us.
                  I've always enjoyed his articles since reading them about a year ago - no different here, and we shouldn't expect too much more at this juncture in the season IMO.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    I will answer that as well...

                    yes, because that's exactly what they said and it's about all they've read...

                    and

                    YES, they are good fans who I know quite well as friends who are not only loyal and come to every game, they even follow on the road, and yes, they do give money...
                    I have followed Bradley basketball for over 40 years and I think I may be qualified to tell good Bradley fans.

                    wouldn't most fans who go to road games and every home game know the BU team pretty well though?

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                    • #40
                      I think you'd be surprised..many who travel on road games seem to be enjoying the travel and social end of it as much as the intricacies of the game..
                      In fact, it's not a whole lot different that home games, as I am sure there's a few fans in suits and mink coats where you sit who are there as much for the refreshments and good social time than for the game, but they're still loyal fans who support BU..

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        I think you'd be surprised..many who travel on road games seem to be enjoying the travel and social end of it as much as the intricacies of the game..
                        In fact, it's not a whole lot different that home games, as I am sure there's a few fans in suits and mink coats where you sit who are there as much for the refreshments and good social time than for the game, but they're still loyal fans who support BU..

                        yeah...I'm sure there are....but I don't have refreshments in a suit or when I'm wearing my mink

                        It's kind of a no win for DR as far as reporting...many fans don't care much about the mundane things with BU and those like here on this board are usually informed by someone and then it gets spread around here...

                        Today in the brave briefs they talk about Andrew's new tatoo I think...I really could care less about stuff like that

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by lefty View Post

                          Today in the brave briefs they talk about Andrew's new tatoo I think...I really could care less about stuff like that
                          Drew's arms are HUGE! He is another Brave that has really added some strength over the summer. I can't wait to see him on the court!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by lefty View Post
                            yeah...I'm sure there are....but I don't have refreshments in a suit or when I'm wearing my mink

                            It's kind of a no win for DR as far as reporting...many fans don't care much about the mundane things with BU and those like here on this board are usually informed by someone and then it gets spread around here...

                            Today in the brave briefs they talk about Andrew's new tatoo I think...I really could care less about stuff like that
                            yeah -- I don't really talk much about the kids' personal lives unless they're in the headlines...
                            but when you say "no win" ..I can't imagine what you mean...

                            I would love to get paid for writing about Bradley University!!!
                            I would be up there on campus all the time and write everything I could!!
                            All I ask is a little coverage that is positive about the players and do a little digging..

                            If I didn't have a job that keeps me away from the campus, I'd love to go up there, watch practice, interview whoever would talk to me and I'd write all day long......

                            What is "no win" about giving us some articles on BU -- you think some people would gripe because there's too much on BU??
                            And don't cordon it off and hide it in a separate section that requires extra clicks and links....
                            where nobody knows how to find it on the internet -- that's self-defeating -- just put it in the main sports section!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              yeah -- I don't really talk much about the kids' personal lives unless they're in the headlines...
                              but when you say "no win" ..I can't imagine what you mean...

                              I would love to get paid for writing about Bradley University!!!
                              I would be up there on campus all the time and write everything I could!!
                              All I ask is a little coverage that is positive about the players and do a little digging..

                              If I didn't have a job that keeps me away from the campus, I'd love to go up there, watch practice, interview whoever would talk to me and I'd write all day long......

                              What is "no win" about giving us some articles on BU -- you think some people would gripe because there's too much on BU??
                              And don't cordon it off and hide it in a separate section that requires extra clicks and links....
                              where nobody knows how to find it on the internet -- that's self-defeating -- just put it in the main sports section!
                              You are the man, T! I agree with everything you have said!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                yeah -- I don't really talk much about the kids' personal lives unless they're in the headlines...
                                but when you say "no win" ..I can't imagine what you mean...

                                I would love to get paid for writing about Bradley University!!!
                                I would be up there on campus all the time and write everything I could!!
                                All I ask is a little coverage that is positive about the players and do a little digging..

                                If I didn't have a job that keeps me away from the campus, I'd love to go up there, watch practice, interview whoever would talk to me and I'd write all day long......

                                What is "no win" about giving us some articles on BU -- you think some people would gripe because there's too much on BU??
                                And don't cordon it off and hide it in a separate section that requires extra clicks and links....
                                where nobody knows how to find it on the internet -- that's self-defeating -- just put it in the main sports section!
                                I don't know that the majority of readers are as fascinated by every little thing written about the team. And quite frankly then you have sports(baseball,soccer,etc) issues as well as gender equity issues where everyone would want some publicty. If they did everyday interviews it would be ho-hum.

                                By no win I mean we all have our preferences. Most on this board would love to see as much on BU basketball as possible but the PJS writes about all sports. So there is only so much space.
                                Besides they have their blogs,forums, etc, where they can add more for the more rabid fans who have the inquiring minds.
                                I've heard Cardinal fans whine about more Cub coverage, Illini fans about BU coverage, high schools about college coverage...well you get the point and so on. I think there sports dept. does fine for the most part in regard to coverage.
                                Just my opinon

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