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  • #16
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    before oob labels me anti ---
    I am fully OK with what DR says...
    and here's the Missouri State beat writer giving his picks...Sammy is 1st Teamer
    http://blogs.news-leader.com/msu/201...etball-ballot/
    Your a real trip, T I have never labeled you or for that matter anyone anti--- or anything Not my style, but I still think you would make a Hell-of a rope man JK

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    • #17
      Originally posted by srw View Post
      I am really angered at Dave over this.

      I worry a lot more about where we are picked then where we actually finish.

      Where you are picked shows the talent you have, and where you actually finish forces you to deal with injuries and such, that no program can control,

      I think Dave is vastly underestimating the talent here.


      I have seen Styx...and i think we are in for a Rabey type improvement. He has gotten a lot bigger.
      I haven't seen Styx, but 'Come Sail Away' is one of my favorite hard rockin' ballads.

      Regarding AT, that would be a season-changing ascension. Of course he has to be put in the game for that to happen, but you know what I am getting at.
      Onward and Upward!

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      • #18
        Sticks/Stix are the ways I have seen it spelled lol.

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        • #19
          Oh mama I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law....

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          • #20
            Maybe DR is anti-BU because he didn't pick them 1 or 2. He should be fired.

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            • #21
              I'm not sold on MSU. They played well at home but on the road were nothing special. Winning on the road is where top finishes are won. I like our chances and in reality the 2-5 places are up for grabs. We can contend if we can show depth in the 4-5 position. It is as simple as that. Of course chemistry and the will to win is important. If we come out to play for a full 40 minutes with no defensive lapses we'll be tough to beat.
              "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
              ??” Thomas Jefferson
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              • #22
                AT has shown great dedication to his strength training. That is a very good sign.

                But there are many athletes that prefer the repetition of strength training vs putting time into skill development.

                It will be interesting to see the impact oF that dedication on the court.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
                  Maybe DR is anti-BU because he didn't pick them 1 or 2. He should be fired.
                  Did he say anything negative? Bring up something that was rehashed? KW's post was just inflammatory bull. How can you compare DR's post with KW's?
                  "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                  ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                  • #24
                    The Indiana State writer just showed how he voted......



                    Here's what he has...
                    1-WSU
                    2-UNI
                    3-MSU
                    4-Bradley
                    5-Indiana State
                    6-Creighton
                    7- Illinois State
                    8- SIU
                    9- Drake
                    10- Evansville

                    All-MVC

                    Toure’ Murry — Wichita State
                    Kenny Lawson Jr. — Creighton
                    Kyle Weems — Missouri State
                    Kwadzo Ahelegbe — Northern Iowa
                    Nafis Ricks — Missouri State

                    MVC Preseason Player of the Year
                    Murry, Wichita State


                    ...I have to wonder what he's seeing when he puts Nafis Ricks on 1st Team All Conference, but excludes Sam Maniscalco and Andrew Warren..but to each his own...

                    Here are comparative stats last year for Ricks & Sammy & Drew...

                    Ricks -- 18.8 mpg, 40.7% on FG, 22.2% on 3pt, 72% on FT, 2.9 rpg, 2.6 apg, 7.4 ppg.
                    Sammy- 33.4 mpg, 46.5% on FG, 34.8% on 3pt, 84.5% on FT, 2.7 rpg, 3.4 apg, 13.1 ppg
                    Warren- 33.6 mpg, 40.2% on FG, 39.6% on 3pt, 87% on FT, 4.5 rpg, 1.6 apg, 14.4 ppg

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      The Indiana State writer just showed how he voted......



                      Here's what he has...
                      1-WSU
                      2-UNI
                      3-MSU
                      4-Bradley
                      5-Indiana State
                      6-Creighton
                      7- Illinois State
                      8- SIU
                      9- Drake
                      10- Evansville

                      All-MVC

                      Toure??™ Murry ??” Wichita State
                      Kenny Lawson Jr. ??” Creighton
                      Kyle Weems ??” Missouri State
                      Kwadzo Ahelegbe ??” Northern Iowa
                      Nafis Ricks ??” Missouri State

                      MVC Preseason Player of the Year
                      Murry, Wichita State


                      ...I have to wonder what he's seeing when he puts Nafis Ricks on 1st Team All Conference, but excludes Sam Maniscalco and Andrew Warren..but to each his own...

                      Here are comparative stats last year for Ricks & Sammy & Drew...

                      Ricks -- 18.8 mpg, 40.7% on FG, 22.2% on 3pt, 72% on FT, 2.9 rpg, 2.6 apg, 7.4 ppg.
                      Sammy- 33.4 mpg, 46.5% on FG, 34.8% on 3pt, 84.5% on FT, 2.7 rpg, 3.4 apg, 13.1 ppg
                      Warren- 33.6 mpg, 40.2% on FG, 39.6% on 3pt, 87% on FT, 4.5 rpg, 1.6 apg, 14.4 ppg
                      I thought...interesting finally a non-love affair with Creighton.......then the rest was TERRIBLE.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by srw View Post
                        I am really angered at Dave over this.

                        I worry a lot more about where we are picked then where we actually finish.

                        Where you are picked shows the talent you have, and where you actually finish forces you to deal with injuries and such, that no program can control,

                        I think Dave is vastly underestimating the talent here.
                        I think he picked us at #3 last year, and look what happened.
                        I agree with DR's predictions, except switch #9 & #10.
                        I am torn between BU & CU for #3. I'm sure DR was also, but CU seems to finish better than us every year.

                        Even with DD's injury last season, we wouldn't have been a Top 2 team. We should have won 19/20 games last season even with his injury with the talent we had.
                        I think we'll be neck and neck with Missouri St. all season. We have more depth than them, but it's up to our bigs to get 'er done.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by real fan View Post
                          I could care less about D.Reynolds pick but just because A.T. is bigger does not mean he is tougher, I hope you are right about him but I will know a lot more about him once I see the red-white and Quincy game.

                          Exactly! There is no need to get worked up about preseason predictions!
                          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                          • #28
                            Here's a prediction from a national writer about SIU -- unfortunately not one you would want to get....
                            He labels SIU as one of the top four programs nationally
                            "On the Wane".......a "slow decline into mediocrity...and unable to bust out of it"
                            Find all the latest college basketball news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.


                            "They're now merely average. The overall record could improve because of
                            three juco transfers, but until Lowry recruits better, the Salukis will keep
                            dragging the bottom half of the MVC."



                            CBSSports also has newly updated Team Reports...

                            Here's the one on Bradley...


                            Here's ISU


                            and here's a menu to see all the others in the Valley and elsewhere...

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                            • #29
                              [QUOTE=tornado;194256]Here's a prediction from a national writer about SIU -- unfortunately not one you would want to get....
                              He labels SIU as one of the top four programs nationally
                              "On the Wane".......a "slow decline into mediocrity...and unable to bust out of it"


                              SIU had a great run......this business, for most, is cyclical. MOST don't stay at the top for long.

                              Time for BU to bust out of that mediocrity level and have an SIU (or better) type run......

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