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    Tuesday, October 26 is the MVC Media Day in St. Louis. Media people and coaches are asked to submit their picks for the preseason favorites for the 2010-2011 season, plus the Preseason All Conference picks.

    Here are the ISU beat writer's picks-

    He likes Andrew Warren for 1st team All-MVC, and also mentions Sam Maniscalco as a player who could "emerge", but ignores Taylor Brown. To his credit, he picks ISU at #6, 2 slots lower than Bradley, and he does not select any ISU players for All-MVC.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    Tuesday, October 26 is the MVC Media Day in St. Louis. Media people and coaches are asked to submit their picks for the preseason favorites for the 2010-2011 season, plus the Preseason All Conference picks.

    Here are the ISU beat writer's picks-

    He likes Andrew Warren for 1st team All-MVC, and also mentions Sam Maniscalco as a player who could "emerge", but ignores Taylor Brown. To his credit, he picks ISU at #6, 2 slots lower than Bradley, and he does not select any ISU players for All-MVC.
    How could you possibly pick AW over SM? The hate SM takes for not being, we'll say to be PC, 'athletic' is unbelievable.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by amckillip View Post
      How could you possibly pick AW over SM? The hate SM takes for not being, we'll say to be PC, 'athletic' is unbelievable.
      the coaches' know who the best players are, and I think you'll be satisfied when you see who they vote when media day comes up.....

      Toure Murry is a fine player -- but seriously, is he that much better than SM??
      Also all of Murry's stats in MVC play are LOWER than the stats he racked up against the extremely soft non-cionference part of their schedule...Sammy is exactly the opposite -- far better when it counts...

      Murry- 42% on FG's, 33% 3-pt (34% in MVC play), 71% FT's, 11.9ppg (11.1 in MVC play), 5.0rpg (4.0 in MVC play), 3.1 apg (3.2 inMVC play), 1.4 steals and 38 turnovers in MVC play - 1.5 A/T Ratio
      Sammy- 47% on FG's (50.3% in MVC play), 35% on 3-pt (36.6% in MVC games), 85% on FT's, 13.1ppg (14.3 in MVC games), 2.7 rpg, 3.5apg (3.7 in MVC games), 1.3 steals, and only 31 turnovers in MVC play - 2.2 A/T Ratio

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      • #4
        More important for SM, AW, and TB to be named all MVC 1st Team next February/March...This would only happen if BU wins the MVC Regular Season, and/or, the MVC Tournament.

        Hard to vote all three Braves, SM, AW and TB, 1st Team MVC in pre-season, whether stats indicate it or not, when BU hasn't had much success in the Valley yet.

        If the writer picked SM 1st Team but not AW and TB, Forum fans would still be upset.

        It's great for BU to have one player recognized as 1st Team MVC in the preseason.

        I want BU players to sweep the awards next spring!
        BUilding for the Future

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        • #5
          not sayin' that the ISU writer Jim Benson isn't capable...but it's comments like this that make you wonder if he knows much or do they employ really uninformed proof readers??

          "Kwadzo Ahelegbe, Creighton"

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          • #6
            Benson knows what he's talking about. He's about as informed as any beat writer can be.

            He also mentions that there is some question about who BU's best player is, which I think is fair. I like SM and AW and I think they play well off of each other.

            From his blog:
            Reasoning: Murry, Weems and Lawson were pretty obvious picks. There is some question whether Warren or Sam Maniscalco is Bradley??™s best player. That??™s a toss up. Ahelegbe is a tough player who will be counted on more this season with Adam Koch, Jordan Eglseder and Ali Farokhmanesch gone. ISU??™s Jackie Carmichael could emerge as an all-conference player, but not at this time.

            He's pretty objective.

            I think SM ends up on the postseason first team this year.

            As for the Murry/SM comparison; they play very different roles on very different teams -- making it a difficult comparison. SM is a better shooter, for sure.

            There are several people around the league who feel that Murry has the best professional potential of any MVC player.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
              Benson knows what he's talking about. He's about as informed as any beat writer can be.

              He also mentions that there is some question about who BU's best player is, which I think is fair. I like SM and AW and I think they play well off of each other.

              From his blog:
              Reasoning: Murry, Weems and Lawson were pretty obvious picks. There is some question whether Warren or Sam Maniscalco is Bradley??™s best player. That??™s a toss up. Ahelegbe is a tough player who will be counted on more this season with Adam Koch, Jordan Eglseder and Ali Farokhmanesch gone. ISU??™s Jackie Carmichael could emerge as an all-conference player, but not at this time.

              He's pretty objective.

              I think SM ends up on the postseason first team this year.

              As for the Murry/SM comparison; they play very different roles on very different teams -- making it a difficult comparison. SM is a better shooter, for sure.

              There are several people around the league who feel that Murry has the best professional potential of any MVC player.

              Agree or disagree, well said....and reasonably presented TD...
              BUilding for the Future

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                Tuesday, October 26 is the MVC Media Day in St. Louis. Media people and coaches are asked to submit their picks for the preseason favorites for the 2010-2011 season, plus the Preseason All Conference picks.

                Here are the ISU beat writer's picks-

                He likes Andrew Warren for 1st team All-MVC, and also mentions Sam Maniscalco as a player who could "emerge", but ignores Taylor Brown. To his credit, he picks ISU at #6, 2 slots lower than Bradley, and he does not select any ISU players for All-MVC.
                I think this guy read my mind...almost.

                My picks are the same - except switch Drake and Indy St.

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                • #9
                  I agree that Stutz may step up this season and have a super year. Don't think he'll be 1st team, but maybe 2nd.

                  I don't see the Birds finishing any lower than 6th, and hopefully they won't surprise anyone. I'm tired of them finishing better than BU.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post

                    Toure Murry is a fine player -- but seriously, is he that much better than SM??
                    Also all of Murry's stats in MVC play are LOWER than the stats he racked up against the extremely soft non-cionference part of their schedule...Sammy is exactly the opposite -- far better when it counts...

                    Murry- 42% on FG's, 33% 3-pt (34% in MVC play), 71% FT's, 11.9ppg (11.1 in MVC play), 5.0rpg (4.0 in MVC play), 3.1 apg (3.2 inMVC play), 1.4 steals and 38 turnovers in MVC play - 1.5 A/T Ratio
                    Sammy- 47% on FG's (50.3% in MVC play), 35% on 3-pt (36.6% in MVC games), 85% on FT's, 13.1ppg (14.3 in MVC games), 2.7 rpg, 3.5apg (3.7 in MVC games), 1.3 steals, and only 31 turnovers in MVC play - 2.2 A/T Ratio
                    Murry was on the all MVC Defensive team last season.

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                    • #11
                      as noted elsewhere, excellent Wichita beat writer Paul Suellentrop is releasing his picks on how the Valley finish will be
                      one team at a time.........he's down to #8..

                      He's already done
                      #10 Evansville


                      #9 Drake


                      #8 SIU - he's doubtful that Lowery will survive if they have a losing season

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
                        Benson knows what he's talking about. He's about as informed as any beat writer can be.

                        He also mentions that there is some question about who BU's best player is, which I think is fair. I like SM and AW and I think they play well off of each other.

                        From his blog:
                        Reasoning: Murry, Weems and Lawson were pretty obvious picks. There is some question whether Warren or Sam Maniscalco is Bradley??™s best player. That??™s a toss up. Ahelegbe is a tough player who will be counted on more this season with Adam Koch, Jordan Eglseder and Ali Farokhmanesch gone. ISU??™s Jackie Carmichael could emerge as an all-conference player, but not at this time.

                        He's pretty objective.

                        I think SM ends up on the postseason first team this year.

                        As for the Murry/SM comparison; they play very different roles on very different teams -- making it a difficult comparison. SM is a better shooter, for sure.

                        There are several people around the league who feel that Murry has the best professional potential of any MVC player.
                        Well said.....I agree.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          as noted elsewhere, excellent Wichita beat writer Paul Suellentrop is releasing his picks on how the Valley finish will be
                          one team at a time.........he's down to #8..

                          He's already done
                          #10 Evansville


                          #9 Drake


                          #8 SIU - he's doubtful that Lowery will survive if they have a losing season
                          http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/2...hern-illinois/
                          He has Indiana State finishing 7th


                          Illinois State finishing 6th

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                          • #14
                            I would love to have beat writer of this caliber for BU. I've been reading a bit of his stuff, and he is really quite good.

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                            • #15
                              While we wait......

                              Based on how the WSU Beat Writer Suellentrop has evaluated teams 6-10, how do you see his MVC picks for 1-5?

                              Does BU crack the top 3 in his estimation?
                              BUilding for the Future

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