Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

[Out of Balance]

Question....did ANYONE on here that was asking for change in the BU athletic dept. ever consider Coach Stowell as part of that change you wanted ?

I THINK I recall OOB saying...."go BIG and fire Stowell from the radio team and kick him off the HOF committee"....of something to that effect.

Come On Man Who would listen to this old ASS

[amckillip]

If you've ever noticed Joanne Glasser always refers to "helping Bradley become a university of national distinction." That is her vision for Bradley University.

With that vision in mind I think it is obvious that she has a clear mission to build and lead BU with minimal regard to certain traditions and the status quo. If she can help to increase the value of a Bradley diploma while putting quality, winning products on the athletic field then I have more tolerance for seeing some things done that I may disagree with. In fact, I think I have heard where the vision is to ultimately double BU's enrollment.

That said, I still disagree with dropping Coach Stowell so unceremoniously from the HOF Committee. I think the Coach earned and deserved better than that.

I have heard the vision of doubling BU's enrollment as well, and I think it's crazy. Maybe we could support 7,000 at most, but we literally couldn't house 10,000 students on campus and in the surrounding area. Rent would be crazy high, and it would drive students to want into the dorms that at 5000 undergrads are filled to capacity... Not to mention at 10,000 you start to feel much more like a large state school than the family BU is currently.

[Bravesfan]

And that my friend is just what KW said he researched, found no bases of the fact and wrote in such a way to el imitate any rumors Although I find it hard to believe that JL has made no comment about the issues of Coach Stowell (Even a thank you for all you done and wise you well) Maybe theres a gag order on JL or anyone in the Admin about coach

Maybe there is something to what BU fan 9 posted:
All I'm going to say is if you talk bad about Glasser you lose your job.
Today 09:36 AM

There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.

[amckillip]

There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.

If I'm him, especially with his opinions, I don't touch this with a 20 foot pole. Nothing good can come of it. If he agrees, he's vilified by fans, if he disagrees, he will encounter the wrath of glass.

[Out of Balance]

There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.

You maybe right But in most similar situations of this kind of nature, the norm is for people closely affiliated to them, are quit to respone Right
I am just saying

[Out of Balance]

If I'm him, especially with his opinions, I don't touch this with a 20 foot pole. Nothing good can come of it. If he agrees, he's vilified by fans, if he disagrees, it will encounter the wrath of glass.

You right Friend Wrath of Glass Good One

[Bravesfan]

I do not think anyone will dispute that he and Jim did not see eye to eye.

I do. Where do you get the feeling they don't see eye to eye?

[Chico]

I can't blame WMBD for letting Joe go as an announcer, but I think BU could make an exception and keep him on the HOF committee. Who else would know as much as Joe about Bradley's sports history?

[amckillip]

I do. Where do you get the feeling they don't see eye to eye?

It's pretty well established that JL didn't like the criticism he received on broadcasts from Coach.

[theBUer]

I have heard the vision of doubling BU's enrollment as well, and I think it's crazy. Maybe we could support 7,000 at most, but we literally couldn't house 10,000 students on campus and in the surrounding area. Rent would be crazy high, and it would drive students to want into the dorms that at 5000 undergrads are filled to capacity... Not to mention at 10,000 you start to feel much more like a large state school than the family BU is currently.

With regards to housing, FWIW, the school paper noted that if BU has another large freshman class next year, sophomores have the chance to move to Main Street Commons off-campus. The school kicked in about 10% of the project's cost, but it came from its endowment.

The problem with the expanding BU to 10k students is simply the fact the campus is hemmed in. It's going to take some creative planning (and more money) to pack 10k students on an 85 acre (maybe more with the new quad) campus. One area that I think the school really is going to target is Peoria-area kids, on the assumption they will commute.

[Bravesfan]

It's pretty well established that JL didn't like the criticism he received on broadcasts from Coach.

Well, cite me some direct sources that quote JL's criticism towards Coach Stowell. I don't make hearsay comments about someone unless I have proof in front of me. No disrespect against you amckillip, but I'd like to see some proof first before I interject my opinions about someone.

[AE Braves Fan]

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now. Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

I know many Obama voters that think they voted for something else. Bradley fans who wanted change don't have to blindly love every move made. There is no inconsistency.

It's not all or nothing. If you didn't want KK to leave it's okay to not support JG's decision.

[amckillip]

Well, cite me some direct sources that quote JL's criticism towards Coach Stowell. I don't make hearsay comments about someone unless I have proof in front of me. No disrespect against you amckillip, but I'd like to see some proof first before I interject my opinions about someone.

It's not going to exist, JL is no fool. You don't have to take my word for it, or anyone else's on here, but even the JL supporters, whose camp I fall in, have admitted in this thread that there is no love lost between JL and Stowell...

Here I disagree. We should take Jim Les' name out of this discussion entirely, because it had nothing at all to do with Jim Les. If it was up to JL, it probably would have happened long ago.

[BuB]

If you've ever noticed Joanne Glasser always refers to "helping Bradley become a university of national distinction." That is her vision for Bradley University.

With that vision in mind I think it is obvious that she has a clear mission to build and lead BU with minimal regard to certain traditions and the status quo. If she can help to increase the value of a Bradley diploma while putting quality, winning products on the athletic field then I have more tolerance for seeing some things done that I may disagree with. In fact, I think I have heard where the vision is to ultimately double BU's enrollment.

That said, I still disagree with dropping Coach Stowell so unceremoniously from the HOF Committee. I think the Coach earned and deserved better than that.

Yeah I have heard that phrase before along with a couple others. The thing is that I believe that our diploma is already worth more than most schools similar to us or near us. We constantly are ranked high in publications under many catagories. Placement rates are high, graduation rates are high, retention rates are high, admission applications are high and so on. You get alot of bang for your buck here at Bradley. Good people in alot of departments are responsible for this. If we really do want to double our enrollment it would not be hard since we turn away alot of applications. If the pres wants to increase enrollment then thats great but problems will pop up in housing and parking.

Same goes for athletics...alot of good people who put a winnning product on the field and met other school requirements at the time have been ran off or replaced. Now you add the Stowell situation and all you can say is, "who is next?"

Good people who helped Bradley reach these heights, on and off an athletic field, and helped form the history/tradition are now gone. She certainly has the right to replace all these successful people. That still does not make it the right decision.

[BradleyJD]

Bradley fans who wanted change don't have to blindly love every move made.

There are some on here who do not believe that. In fact they will tell you that TRUE FANS agree with every move the University makes.