Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

[BuB]

Huh? Look back at the board. It is you that is wrong.
I was 100% consistent. I acknowledged they have the right to make whatever changes they want to make. I think KK was a valuable person, and I would have liked to see him stay, but I accepted the change and think Dr. Cross is doing a great job.
I feel the same in this instance. Joe was good for Bradley and I would have been fine if he had been retained. But I am confident Bradley is moving in the right direction, and other than a few hurt feelings, I don't see a problem with these latest moves.

As I said before, I am a Bradley fan...not just a fan of selected people like Joe.

Glasser alone made the move to get rid of KK. Cross was not here yet. That move along with several others was questioned by most. Weren't you and T part of those who thought it was a bad move at the time?

[BradleyBrave]

Stowell told the truth. That's something very few do nowadays in that position (not specifically talking about BU, but TV/radio sports analysts in general). I wish his formal exit from the booth was more graceful; he deserves better. But such is life; there are very few true happy endings.

[BradleyJD]

But would you want somebody who worked for you to be the "mouthpiece" to spread negative information to your customers, prospective customers, and competitors...... even if it was true?

Was he spreading it or just reporting it? There is a difference.

or are we turning into this......



Now, of course, I am joking, but we need to be careful.

[BU RICK]

A little off-topic, have we got any 7 footers in our band? Very short video, he comes in at the end http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...n=ncaab-272678

[Da Coach]

Glasser alone made the move to get rid of KK. Cross was not here yet. That move along with several others was questioned by most. Weren't you and T part of those who thought it was a bad move at the time?

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

[amckillip]

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

How is the fact that you were against the KK firing, but for the Joe Stowell firing consistent, but someone who was for the KK firing (a person who has far more influence BTW) and against the Stowell firing inconsistent?????? Talk about a double standard. Jeeze. The only way the two were related is that it's pretty clear they were casualties of Pres. Glasser's Micromanagement.

[amckillip]

Do you think that its the fans, alumni, season ticket holders, media, etc that who pride itself on history and tradition or the new regiem? IMO this new leadership is focused on getting rid of those who made our past history and helped create our tradition. They have ran off or discarded alot of good people who were successful at what they did for Bradley. They don't seem to care for history/tradition.

Like I said, they have this right but it can still be the wrong decision. And when it is wrong you are going to hear about it from the people who care so much.

Hey, I'm on you're side. I was saying the new leadership clearly has far less respect for tradition than do fans and alum. If you only look at what we've been lately, that an MVC also-ran, plain and simple, but I think we all know we're more than that. That is why I think the administration is making a mistake in trying to distance itself from that.

[Beninator]

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

How is the fact that you were against the KK firing, but for the Joe Stowell firing consistent, but someone who was for the KK firing (a person who has far more influence BTW) and against the Stowell firing inconsistent?????? Talk about a double standard. Jeeze. The only way the two were related is that it's pretty clear they were casualties of Pres. Glasser's Micromanagement.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That being said, I was against the KK firing, against playing a regular season game at the new facilities, against the handling of the Stowell situation, and against Glasser's micromanagement. Now that's consistency!

[BuB]

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

Nope. I did not celebrate the KK situation. I disagreed with that move. I also disagree with the Stowell move.

[BuB]

Hey, I'm on you're side. I was saying the new leadership clearly has far less respect for tradition than do fans and alum. If you only look at what we've been lately, that an MVC also-ran, plain and simple, but I think we all know we're more than that. That is why I think the administration is making a mistake in trying to distance itself from that.

I thought we agreed but I could not tell if you thought our current leaders respected and valued our history/tradition as much as fans, ticket holders, alumni. I also think their is an obvious difference of opinion.

[Braves4Life]

I thought we agreed but I could not tell if you thought our current leaders respected and valued our history/tradition as much as fans, ticket holders, alumni. I think their is an obvious difference of opinion.

If you've ever noticed Joanne Glasser always refers to "helping Bradley become a university of national distinction." That is her vision for Bradley University.

With that vision in mind I think it is obvious that she has a clear mission to build and lead BU with minimal regard to certain traditions and the status quo. If she can help to increase the value of a Bradley diploma while putting quality, winning products on the athletic field then I have more tolerance for seeing some things done that I may disagree with. In fact, I think I have heard where the vision is to ultimately double BU's enrollment.

That said, I still disagree with dropping Coach Stowell so unceremoniously from the HOF Committee. I think the Coach earned and deserved better than that.

[Future Walk-On]

Coach had to have done something unbeknownst to us.....like something he said about Glasser or some disagreement.....etc..

[Bravesfan]

nowadays there are privacy laws, and also a desire to say as little as possible since the local media plays up anything whether it's true or not..

(case in point...note the comment "It is not much of a secret, for example, that Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of.." then the immediate concession that such a fact had nothing to do with this!
Then the writer speculates on a "conspiracy theory" and again immediately concedes that there isn't one and the two issues are unrelated)


Here are some facts that it seems everyone is agreeing with...
-Joe Stowell has been employed and revered at BU and by BU for well over 50 years, but that he is almost 84, doesn't get around well, and cannot travel to road games. 99.8% of all people are retired or end their active employment by age 84, and there are reasons...but in this case, many reasons are not being stated.
-Joe Stowell was not fired by Bradley from his broadcasting gig. This was stated clearly to be the decision of WMBD alone.
-Despite the swipe at JL in the paper, the writer clearly acknowledges that BU and JL had nothing to do with the broadcasting decision, plus that decision was made by WMBD and was unrelated to the issue with the committee.

Agreed wholeheartedly about the privacy laws and how the news media tends to blow things way out of proportion. Believe me, that's one of my huge pet peeves too!

As I replied to Da Coach last night though, the info he stated regarding this whole situation was more than enough for me, as are the facts you stated above tornado. And I do admit that I did gloss over the part where WMBD was the one who let Coach Stowell go, so that was "my bad". The paper did indeed make that part clear, though they did not need to try to bring Les into this situation where he had really nothing to do with anything regarding this. However, I do appreciate KW stating that Les had nothing to do with the actual decisions regarding Stowell, and also him explaining the HOF committee term limit laws.

So really that is all I need to know, and that is all I expect of the media. The rest as you said tornado should stay private unless any one of the parties involved decides to speak to the media.

[Out of Balance]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That being said, I was against the KK firing, against playing a regular season game at the new facilities, against the handling of the Stowell situation, and against Glasser's micromanagement. Now that's consistency!

You OK Benni We agree on all the above Is there a chance we have the same Mama What do you look like Are you about 5'11, brown eyes, 190 lbs, white on top and have bowled legs If not, it really does not mean we are not bothers, just that we may have different Daddy's JK, Man, JK

[dogsrus]

Question....did ANYONE on here that was asking for change in the BU athletic dept. ever consider Coach Stowell as part of that change you wanted ?

I THINK I recall OOB saying...."go BIG and fire Stowell from the radio team and kick him off the HOF committee"....of something to that effect.