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  • #16
    I have no problem with the article. I love Coach Stowell but agree with the decision to replace him on the men's broadcasts. He was never a great color guy and he had gotten even worse in recent years. He has a weak voice for radio and, in my opinion, was beginning to cross (no pun intended) the line with some of his comments and criticisms of the team and the coaching. I'm sure the university realizes that a stronger, more positive broadcast team would be a positive for both fan support, recruiting and player morale. Remember, BU controls the presentation of their product and they have a right to want a positive image portrayed at ALL times. This might not seem fair or right but remember, it's not BU's job to present a "fair and balanced" image. That job is for the media....... they are NOT on BU's payroll.

    Now, removing Stowell from the HOF Committee is a whole other matter. What the he!! were they thinking! I can only presume that there is an untold story here regarding Stowell and BU. If not, this was just wrong for BU to do this! Couldn't this have been done differently BU?!

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    • #17
      KW's take on removing him from the committee was spot on. No reason to do it.

      Also seems like a pretty minor accommodation to have Stowell do home games only. Sure makes you wonder...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View Post
        ...spot on. No reason to do it.....
        hmmm...clearly there are reasons....some seem to think things happen for "no reason"...
        just maybe nobody here nor writing hit pieces really knows those reasons, but hey - that never stopped anyone beofre from drawing bad conclusions....
        Why can't a private organization do as they wish without always being criticized? They basically employed the man for 55 years of his life
        as well as gave him the opportunity to play college ball and get an education..
        I have loved Coach Stowell for the more than 40 years I have known him and yet I am not at all surprised by this and it seems pretty benign actually.
        The guy is 84 years old....how many schools employ people that long and yet get ripped when he's gone?? Only one I can think of.
        ..reading this stuff - it sounds like Bradley's never done a thing for the man and stabbed him in the back -- couldn't be further from the truth..
        BTW-- the Egyptian National basketball team also let him go decades ago -- maybe let's ask them for a reason....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
          ...I can only presume that there is an untold story here regarding Stowell and BU...
          This may be the case, but the BU administration has the final say.
          There is a reason the terms on the HOF committee are limited, and 2 other members of the committee also were not renewed, so this was not an action directed solely at Coach Stowell. And, he was replaced by Corky Robertson, who is every bit as loyal and knowledgeable about past Bradley sports figures as Stowell.

          It is always hard for fans to accept changes like this, but I find it ironic that many of the fans who are the most vocal about this change are the same fans who demanded changes in BU administration, and then wanted to see those newly hired people make major changes in the athletics department.
          Now we have seen a lot of changes in coaching and other athletic department personnel, which typically happens when administrators change. And yet with every change, many who wanted the change now act incredulous and question the moves.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            hmmm...clearly there are reasons....some seem to think things happen for "no reason"...
            just maybe nobody here nor writing hit pieces really knows those reasons, but hey - that never stopped anyone beofre from drawing bad conclusions....
            Why can't a private organization do as they wish without always being criticized?
            Don't take everyone so literally. Of course there are reasons. What I and I presume others who made similar comments mean is that there are no apparent good reasons. And until they are made known, people will draw conclusions based on the facts available.

            Why can't a private Bradley fan share a thought without always being criticized?

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            • #21
              obviously they can and do -- but as Da Coach noted, it's a little disingenuous when the very people who demanded changes and wanted to get the old guard out of there and getting new blood in - then complain when it happens?? I knew it was gonna happen -- just surprised it happens so much...

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              • #22
                I'm not one of those people that wanted big changes.

                However, I would have to imagine that those people didn't have a beef with Joe Stowell of all people. So I don't really see the point DC is trying to make.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  It had nothing to do with budget cuts, the job has never been a high-paying job. Both Bradley and WMBD wanted a team that would be together for every game, and Coach Stowell only wants to do home games. That would make the transition with Danny Adams difficult. There are other reasons, but not worth mentioning.

                  I love Coach Stowell, but it was time for a change. This was the right move, long overdue, and I congratulate BU, Dave and Danny, and WMBD. I appreciate all that Coach Stowell has given to BU in the years he was employed.

                  KW and the PJS, as usual, are trying to create a tempest in a teapot. This is simply not that big of a deal, and the motives of KW for trying to make it one are obvious.
                  Why, the Hell didn't BU at lease call Dr. K. in to make it a mercy thing with no pain You wait tell they come to put a tag on your toe DC, I bet you won't be saying it is time and its the right move Personally I agree with everything Bravesfan posted Can't beet good old common sense with respect
                  Also DC, you lost a little here when you pointed the finger to pass the buck onto KW and the PJS, for the unprofessional conduct taken on yet another loyal and longtime BU Supporter, by the BU Admin
                  Last edited by Out of Balance; 09-26-2010, 09:38 PM.

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                  • #24
                    There are still plenty of ways to stay involved and support Bradley --

                    There are many supporters who don't ask the school to pay them or do any special favors for them..
                    I look forward to seeing Coach Stowell at the games supporting the team...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Out of Balance View Post
                      Also DC, you lost a little here when you pointed the finger to pass the buck onto KW and the PJS, for the unprofessional conduct taken on yet another loyal and longtime BU Supporter, by the BU Admin
                      But why exactly did KW have to mention that "Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of beyond their postgame radio show. Some in the Les camp believe Stowell is not supportive enough, while Stowell points out his radio job is ???analyst, not cheerleader.???

                      He then follows this up with "I??™m told by multiple sources, however, that Les had no input on the decision and was genuinely surprised when he learned Stowell wouldn??™t be working men??™s games."

                      Why does he feel the need to even mention JL's name in an article about Joe Stowell?
                      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        hmmm...clearly there are reasons....some seem to think things happen for "no reason"...
                        just maybe nobody here nor writing hit pieces really knows those reasons, but hey - that never stopped anyone beofre from drawing bad conclusions....
                        Why can't a private organization do as they wish without always being criticized? They basically employed the man for 55 years of his life
                        as well as gave him the opportunity to play college ball and get an education..
                        I have loved Coach Stowell for the more than 40 years I have known him and yet I am not at all surprised by this and it seems pretty benign actually.
                        The guy is 84 years old....how many schools employ people that long and yet get ripped when he's gone?? Only one I can think of.
                        ..reading this stuff - it sounds like Bradley's never done a thing for the man and stabbed him in the back -- couldn't be further from the truth..
                        BTW-- the Egyptian National basketball team also let him go decades ago -- maybe let's ask them for a reason....
                        I probably bash KW and the PJS more than anyone on this board. KW's article today was not a hit piece!
                        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View Post
                          I'm not one of those people that wanted big changes.

                          However, I would have to imagine that those people didn't have a beef with Joe Stowell of all people. So I don't really see the point DC is trying to make.
                          The point is that when any school has major changes in leadership, such as a new President, and a new Athletic Director, especially when they have no connection to the University's past, we can expect there will be changes. Stowell had served on the committee since the 1960s! And he may still be asked back, as KW's column states.
                          I'll bet most of the people complaining about this move had never heard of this committee until Wessler's column detailed this story. It is not a committee that has any effect on policy or running of the athletic department. So I don't understand what the big deal is.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            There are still plenty of ways to stay involved and support Bradley --

                            There are many supporters who don't ask the school to pay them or do any special favors for them..
                            I look forward to seeing Coach Stowell at the games supporting the team...
                            Stowell bleeds Bradley red. No need to bash him!
                            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                            • #29
                              who has bashed Stowell -- I have nothing but honor and compliments for the man --?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                                The point is that when any school has major changes in leadership, such as a new President, and a new Athletic Director, especially when they have no connection to the University's past, we can expect there will be changes. Stowell had served on the committee since the 1960s! And he may still be asked back, as KW's column states.
                                I'll bet most of the people complaining about this move had never heard of this committee until Wessler's column detailed this story. It is not a committee that has any effect on policy or running of the athletic department. So I don't understand what the big deal is.
                                RE first highlighted part of your post. What I and I think others are protesting is the sheer arrogance of these decisions with little regard to someone who is a big part of BU tradition.

                                Re second part of highlighted part of your post: Unless some fans protest this arrogance, I doubt that BU will ask Stowell back for another term for the Hall of Fame committee.

                                There are classy ways to handle this situation and classless ways. So far, President Glasser and the administration are proving to me that they are dropping the ball on this and other situations!
                                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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