Bradley completes schedule

[dogsrus]

OoB, even though you may not believe it, the team would be able to play a game without you there.

Yes but Beer sales would suffer and start a chain of financial events that could ruin Peoria....

Let em have it Oob.....the game wouldn't be the same without YOU, Chico or any of the other great lifelong BU fans there.

[dogsrus]

Have a better team, have more success, make the game night out more entertaining, market the product better, go to the NCAA/NIT, sell out the PCC on a regular basis and make more $$$....

4700 people x $25 pp per game x 2 non con exhibitions = $234,000 less expenses at the on campus arena.

Couldn't BU do as well adding another 3000 people in the stands at the PCC for each of the 16 home games and a couple of exhibitions?

Has anyone seen a financial pro forma on men bb games games at the on campus arena vs at the PCC - factoring in ticket revenue, concession revenue, parking revenue net expenses? Is the financial benefit to BU selling another 500 seat licenses to ticket holders for the prime seats?

SO logical....and MY thoughts exactly. Sell/fix what you got and what HAS worked at times in the past for 25 years.

[tornado]

Yes but Beer sales would suffer ...

not quite sure there are plans to sell beer at the new arena...in fact, kinda doubt it....

[Out of Balance]

OoB, even though you may not believe it, the team would be able to play a game without you there.

Believe it or not I know that Never knew or wanted to come across that way
Now if I was to say anything close to that or attact another poster like you just did, I would be gone But you know BnC, most everyone on here knows your not as clean and right chess as you put on to be friend

[shaunguth]

while everyone agrees that the idea of campus games is not 100% favorable...
neither are the higher prices of tickets compared to a decade ago, and the more difficult parking situation since the Civic Center expansion....but sometimes things just are as they are or as they have to be...

I don't think it's difficult at all to find a parking spot for Bradley games. There at least two sizeable parking lots available on RB Garrett....one of which is just across the street from the PCC and I don't remember it ever being completely full.

[shaunguth]

T,

A husband and wife may have seasons tickets and both consider themselves season ticket holders.

By your logic, if the husband is the only one with his name on the account, then you're only counting that as 1 season ticket holder? Hmmm....

I always go in a group of four to the conference games and consider all four of us to have the conference season tickets. All four of us go to the postseason games together as well.

[Out of Balance]

Out of Balance-

In the pre-inter-league era, a Cubs season ticket holder was not entitled access to the in-season exhibition vs the White Sox or vice versa.

A Peoria Symphony Orchestra season ticket holder has to buy extra tickets to go to next weekend's Beatles tribute.

College of Charleston fans were not entitled admission to the ESPN Tournament on their home floor that they participated in last year.

If an opera company performs the Ring Cycle (a run of 4 straight nights) that would not be part of any base season-ticket subscription.

Thanks for comparing Apples to Apples, friend
Cubs, Peoria Symphony Orchestra, College of Charleston and opera company's None of these come close to how I feel about BU BB But try maybe saying the admission to Big Als one night does not entitle you to the next night

[Buesch N Chips]

But you know BnC, most everyone on here knows your not as clean and right chess as you put on to be friend

I have no idea what this means.

If you want tickets, I'm sure they will be available, if you make an effort.

[BradleyJD]

Yes but Beer sales would suffer and start a chain of financial events that could ruin Peoria....

Let em have it Oob.....the game wouldn't be the same without YOU, Chico or any of the other great lifelong BU fans there.

Amen.

[tornado]

I don't think it's difficult at all to find a parking spot for Bradley games. There at least two sizeable parking lots available on RB Garrett....one of which is just across the street from the PCC and I don't remember it ever being completely full.

more difficult = now kids have to negotiate a busy 4-lane street w/ impatient motorists, in the dark, twice

[DoubleJayAlum]

I am less than thrilled about the move and don't really want to see games at the on-campus arena. . .but frankly, the numbers support the move.

BU is not going broke, you are right. But they are conservative in spending right now and they aren't going to spend more in buying basketball games unless the funding comes from the source.

These games would be in addition to the season ticket package. The goal here is to play perhaps as many as 18 home games. Without looking it up, I imagine you have to go back to the 1960's to see that. Actual attendance numbers at games similar to the games we would play at the new arena would shock you...because those numbers are PATHETIC.

So I'm willing to give it a shot because I would take more home games, especially if it allows BU to go out and buy better opponents for games at Carver.

Adding these extra games to Carver, knowing that attendance would stink, BU would potentially lose money on them.

I don't see why some fans refuse to acknowledge the numbers and the long-term benefits to the move.

Ideally, the circumstances could be better surrounding the move. . .a larger on-campus arena would've been nice. A better team year in, year out would be nice because demand for the product and games at Carver would make this unnecessary. But I also understand why the University wants to make the move.

But I can agree to disagree.

Squirrel,

Out of curiosity, what is the approximate break even attendance number? (i.e., what does attendance have to be for BU to not experience a financial loss? I understand that one can't be exact because you never know the amount of concessions consumed from one game to the next, but I assume there is an approximate number.)

Also, does Bradley provide free transportation to students to get to the arena? Do any surrounding bars provide free shuttles?

As a fan of a school who plays its games in an off-campus arena as well, these issues are of interest to me....Thanks in advance....

[squirrelgotdead]

JJ Alum-

I have no knowledge of the financial numbers. However, I do know rental of PCC is likely not cheap and I do know that the estimated actual attendances last year for the following games:

Idaho State 6200 (Home opener)
Presbyterian 4800 (walkup of 185, weeknight, first non-Sunday regular season game)

If that's what you get for a home opener-that number doesn't even likely match the number of season tickets sold. And I can't imagine BU gets any revenue on those kinds of numbers.

I've said it numerous times, most of the season tickets go unused for the games that would likely be played at the new arena.

The bottom line is many season tickets are held in blocks by businesses or companies and go unused, many are held by snowbirds who are in town maybe 1-2 weeks of the season, and many more are held and are used only casually or for "name" teams.

I reiterate that I get why people are concerned but again here are the numbers:

c. 4200 seating
c. 5000 w/ SRO

Less than 1/3 are reserved for pre-sold tickets in the new arena. The season ticket holders who actually go out of their way to get to games have very little risk of being left out for the games that are likely to be played in the arena.

[shaunguth]

more difficult = now kids have to negotiate a busy 4-lane street w/ impatient motorists, in the dark, twice

What does that have to do with the so-called "more difficult parking situation"?

[squirrelgotdead]

Thanks for comparing Apples to Apples, friend

All 4 are things, by your understanding and definition of season ticket holder entitlements, you should be entitled to. This is no different. You may not like the examples, but they are fair comparisons.

[tornado]

that is how I view it -- it is far less desirable for me to park where they make us park now than before...and I heard many other people say the same thing...
Many who don't like waiting 15 minutes in line to catch an elevator to where they parked when the masses all head to the deck at the same time.

but my point is that I am not on the board whining and griping non-stop about every little thing that I find undesirable...
I still view Bradley basketball as a vastly positive thing and don't let little changes tear me to pieces or ruin the heck out of my golf game...