BU still looking for another game.

[tornado]

But there's little shame in losing to Duke on the road, but bigger concerns about losing a home game to Niagara...

[squirrelgotdead]

You, are exactly right, making my point, that is the reason they have such a hard time scheduling.

Exactly. It's cowardice, not complexity.

[AZ BU Fan]

NCAA needs to provide incentive for schools to schedule tougher Non Con games, or, Non Con road games.

If a school goes .500 or less in a tougher Non Con, but wins their conference/conference tourney and/or gets a NCAA/NIT bid, don't think a coaches job would be in jepoardy...

Coaches that aren't successful in conference play or conference tourneys rely on padding Non Con schedule to try and make their program look better and to lock up NCAA/NIT at large bids to keep their jobs.

NCAA can help eliminate that by ignoring Non Con wins against lessor opponents, particularly home games, when deciding at large bids. Of course that would pi$$ off major conference schools so it won't happen...

[Da Coach]

Bradley appears to have added another game-

Loyola Marymount, one of the teams in the Hall of Fame Classic, has apparently agreed to play at Bradley November 17, on their way to travelling to Springfield, Mass., according to their schedule posted on the team's website-

http://www.lmulions.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/loyo-m-baskbl-sched.html

[tornado]

nice find --
but I am thinking this means one of two things....
-that this Nov. 17 game IS the game in the tournament
-or that something fell through and the tournament is kaput so we're setting up our own games..



Updated.........
Late Oct. - prob. Oct. 29 or 30 - Red-White Game @ new On-Campus Arena
Early Nov. - Exhibition game at new On-Campus Arena
Early Nov. - Exhibition game @ Carver Arena (possibly on-campus?)
??Nov. date TBD (14th?)- 1st Home game in Hall of Fame Classic (vs. TCU, Loyola-Marymount, or final unnamed team)
??Nov. date TBD (16th?)- 2nd Home game in Hall of Fame Classic (vs. TCU, Loyola-Marymount, or final unnamed team)
Nov. 17 - Wed - Loyola Marymount @ Carver Center (if a regularly scheduled game, then the tourney must be changed)
Nov. 20 - Sat - USC @ Basketball Hall of Fame Tip-Off Tournament
Nov. 21 - Sun. -UMass or New Mexico State @ HOF Tip-Off Tournament
Nov. 24 - Wed. home game vs. Eastern Illinois @ Carver Arena or poss. on-campus
Nov. 30 - Tues. road game at Western Carolina
Dec. 4 - Sat. -home game vs. Utah @ Carver Arena
Dec 8. - road game at Duke @ Duke's Cameron Arena
Date TBD- home game vs. NIU
Dec. 20 - home vs. Jackson State @ Carver Arena
MVC schedule
Feb. 18-19 Road game - BracketBusters

Mar. 3-6 MVC Tournament

[Da Coach]

nice find --
but I am thinking this means one of two things....
-that this Nov. 17 game IS the game in the tournament
-or that something fell through and the tournament is kaput so we're setting up our own games..

Don't know and nothing has been officially announced, but based on other team's published schedules, I think it is closer to the latter of those 2 options, as the tournament website now states that all games in the tournament will be played at the MassMutual Center.

http://www.halloffametipoff.com/schedule.php

I think the preliminary games may have been axed, but the 2 games in Massachusetts are still on. I think the loss of those 2 guaranteed home games is why Bradley is now scrambling to add games.

Also, here is their twitter page which has been recently updated-

http://twitter.com/HOF_Tipoff

It states-
The Basketball Hall of Fame Tip-Off Tournament will take place at the MassMutual Center on Sat, Nov. 20th & Sun, Nov 21st. 8 schools - 2 brackets - 4 teams
The site previously listed preliminary games on campuses, but has now removed that part of the description of the tournament.

Here was the lastest speculation-

http://www.bradleyhoops.com/homepage/x1110533749/Tournament-format-might-change

[thefish7]

So if reading that right we'll still be able to play USC and either UMass or New Mexico-- we'll just have to replace the home games with other home games (potentially against the same opponents we would have played-- Loyola Marymount and TCU would be nice)?

[Da Coach]

So if reading that right we'll still be able to play USC and either UMass or New Mexico-- we'll just have to replace the home games with other home games (potentially against the same opponents we would have played-- Loyola Marymount and TCU would be nice)?

That's how I understand it, though no official announcement to clarify the schedule has been made by any of the teams or by the tournament people themselves. But I have to believe the preliminary games on the college campuses have been eliminated, or why would there be no mention of any of those games now on the college sites or on the tournament site.
Plus their website now clearly states- All games played at the MassMutual Center in Springfield, Massachusetts
And their twitter states only this- ....Tournament will take place at the MassMutual Center on Sat, Nov. 20th & Sun, Nov 21st.

[chitown fanatic]

If LMU is in the fold, we need the TCU game now too, preferably as the opener on the weekend. Buy them if you have to...season ticket holders deserve a name opponent to watch for a change.

[amckillip]

So if reading that right we'll still be able to play USC and either UMass or New Mexico-- we'll just have to replace the home games with other home games (potentially against the same opponents we would have played-- Loyola Marymount and TCU would be nice)?

That's how I understand it, though no official announcement to clarify the schedule has been made by any of the teams or by the tournament people themselves. But I have to believe the preliminary games on the college campuses have been eliminated, or why would there be no mention of any of those games now on the college sites or on the tournament site.
Plus their website now clearly states- All games played at the MassMutual Center in Springfield, Massachusetts
And their twitter states only this- ....Tournament will take place at the MassMutual Center on Sat, Nov. 20th & Sun, Nov 21st.

Can we replace the home games? Am I crazy thinking that the reason we do a tournament is that it only takes up one game on our schedule? So freeing up tourney home games doesn't buy us anything right?

[chitown fanatic]

I believe that restriction was lifted and you can play a max of 12 non-con games with an 18 game league schedule. However you reach that number is up to you. The old 4 for 1(exempt tourney) is gone, i think.

[Steve81]

There is nothing new about all teams playing in Springfield. Thought it was a better idea than the Legends Classic, which had Div II teams in the opening round. By having all teams play in Springfield, the quality of the home games would be better. My speculation on the USC Dec 1st game is that the eight team is almost signed and has scheduling conflicts. We should find out in the next few weeks. Last week was filled with Hall of Fame Enshrinement events.

The following quote is from May 12th. http://www.hoophall.com/news/2010/5/...es-for-20.html

Tip-Off returns to Springfield November 20 and 21
SPRINGFIELD, MASS. – The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame announced today the return of a 27-year Springfield tradition. The Basketball Hall of Fame Tip-Off Tournament will take place at the MassMutual Center on Saturday November 20 and Sunday November 21. Eight schools will participate in two brackets of four teams over two days in an NCAA exempt tournament.
In addition to the two brackets that will play in Springfield, each of the participating schools will play against each other in two additional games to be hosted on campus by Bradley University, New Mexico State University, University of Massachusetts, and University of Southern California.

More Speculation on the Brackets:
Bradley University,
New Mexico State University,
University of Massachusetts,
University of Southern California

Rider - UMass and USC
Loyola Marymount - Bradley and NMS or UMass (USC states Dec 1 and already has game scheduled for Dec 1.)
Texas Christian University - NMS, Bradley or UMass (USC states Dec 1 and already has game scheduled for Dec 1.)
Team 8 - USC and NMS, UMass or Bradley

Schedules
USC - http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...f/Schedule.pdf
TCU - http://gofrogs.cstv.com/sports/m-bas...kbl-sched.html
LoyolaMarymount - http://www.lmulions.com/sports/m-bas...kbl-sched.html