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  • #31
    4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
    do the math...

    and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
    ... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
      do the math...

      and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
      ... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!
      Well, I'm sorry but 4000 at a postseason game is a black eye for the program. I remember when U of I played at stoney brook and I saw the attendance I thought, oh they are not playing on the same level as the MVC. It would show we are not even a mid major program let alone a big time program. I hope that is not where we are headed. Although I have always thought schools like Illinois weslyan were not that bad of basketball.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
        do the math...

        and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
        ... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!
        Would you please share/show us your math and how you got your sum Please I mean it, because all the rest of us on here don't have excess to BU's books I've purchased my season tickets and paid my maintenance dues the first week when they came do With the intent, as each year that it assured me the same seats and if I so desire (that is if BU gets in any post season play at home) I would be given a chance to purchase the same seats before going on sale to the public Also would you share with us how bad the CC has been to BU, besides some scheduling problems

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        • #34
          I don't see how hard it is to understand that having a game at the new arena is a bad idea for the fan base. Yes it would be cool for those people that go, but even a nobody non-conference game and you are eliminating at least a couple thousand season ticket holders that would be at the game normally. Many BU fans would not appreciate that and the administration would be alienating them. None of the pros of having it on campus out weight the con of alienating so many fans. The last thing ANY sports team/fanchise wants to do is decrease the amount of fans that can attend the game. Its the basic formula of the business model.
          Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

          Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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          • #35
            and I have "excess"??

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              and I have "excess"??
              mature

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Stryker View Post
                I don't see how hard it is to understand that having a game at the new arena is a bad idea for the fan base. Yes it would be cool for those people that go, but even a nobody non-conference game and you are eliminating at least a couple thousand season ticket holders that would be at the game normally. Many BU fans would not appreciate that and the administration would be alienating them. None of the pros of having it on campus out weight the con of alienating so many fans. The last thing ANY sports team/fanchise wants to do is decrease the amount of fans that can attend the game. Its the basic formula of the business model.

                Wow...ok, I'll say it so it comes from someone other than normal. If missing one game is going to alienate you...then you mustn't be a true fan.

                Cmon...if the athletic department is doing this it is for a reason. Do you really think that they would make a move like this without weighing the options.

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                • #38
                  Having a single non-conference game at the new arena isn't bad for the fan base, it's bad for the long standing season ticket holder fan base. It's a great opportunity for the non-season ticket holders, the students, the administration, the team, other BU sports teams, chance to show off the new facility,etc. Actually people in the building and into the game for EIU at the PCC will be less than 4,500 I guarantee it.

                  It's a fun, unique LIMITED ENGAGEMENT thing. No one is talking about moving multiple, meaningful games out of the PCC and no one is telling you that you can't go to the game, just go buy a ticket like the commoners do for every game.

                  If you would seriously consider pulling donations or support for the university or basketball program over this, then you are selfish and loyal only to yourself and your needs, and not a true supporter of the university and it's best interests. But let me guess, what's in BU's best interest is keeping you happy so the checks keep coming right, everything else be ****ed.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LG281 View Post

                    Pros -
                    - the benefit mentioned above to the bottom line.
                    - Any $$ lost by not having a few thousand folks may be offset by not having to pay the CC to be in their facility for a night
                    - Added student interest from an on campus event that could spark interest to go downtown for games.
                    - Great home atmosphere. (not a knock to the CC - just drastically different)
                    - The WBB and VB teams benefit from the sale of these 500 or so "priority" seats
                    - Place to host post season events
                    - We gain a little wiggle room in dealing with the CC
                    - Anyone who has ever taken an economics class would tell you that creating a little demand is NEVER a bad thing.
                    I am a little late to this debate as I have been busy with other things. I don't understand this "pro" arguement. Given that I think we have more season ticket holders than the capacity of the new facilities, and given that this seems to be more of an exclusive event, I have a feeling that the students will once again get shafted if they want tickets for a game at the new arena.

                    [QUOTE=dogsrus;188639]
                    Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
                    One benefit that hasn't really been talked about is that this facility should greatly reduce BU's bottom line.

                    At what expense.....again reduce the bottom line on the backs of hundreds perhaps thousands of loyal BU fans. FOOLISH.
                    Agree... I think that BU needs to find ways to be more inclusive with our fans than this concept!

                    Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                    Enough of bringing bb back to campus, negotiating leverage with the PCC, increasing student attendance, creating a home court advantage, etc. These are all secondary to what the university really wants, more $$....Not that there is anything wrong with that.
                    Exactly... I think this new plan is an excuse to tier the ticket levels to increase ticket prices in the future!

                    Originally posted by lake Camelot View Post
                    Well, I'm sorry but 4000 at a postseason game is a black eye for the program. I remember when U of I played at stoney brook and I saw the attendance I thought, oh they are not playing on the same level as the MVC. It would show we are not even a mid major program let alone a big time program. I hope that is not where we are headed. Although I have always thought schools like Illinois weslyan were not that bad of basketball.
                    Very much agree! We already have to overcome the mid-major label, why put gas on the fire and contribute to that perception with a game at a 4,500 seat facility?

                    So far, this looks like a half-***ed approach to bring games back to the campus. JMHO
                    Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                    ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      and I have "excess"??
                      4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC

                      Then, NO Real Facts = NO Correct Answers Come On Man

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by FortyTwo View Post
                        Having a single non-conference game at the new arena isn't bad for the fan base, it's bad for the long standing season ticket holder fan base. It's a great opportunity for the non-season ticket holders, the students, the administration, the team, other BU sports teams, chance to show off the new facility,etc. Actually people in the building and into the game for EIU at the PCC will be less than 4,500 I guarantee it.

                        It's a fun, unique LIMITED ENGAGEMENT thing. No one is talking about moving multiple, meaningful games out of the PCC and no one is telling you that you can't go to the game, just go buy a ticket like the commoners do for every game.

                        If you would seriously consider pulling donations or support for the university or basketball program over this, then you are selfish and loyal only to yourself and your needs, and not a true supporter of the university and it's best interests. But let me guess, what's in BU's best interest is keeping you happy so the checks keep coming right, everything else be ****ed.
                        Commoners:lol: I perfer to call them BU Fans who for what ever reason do not purchase a season ticket but still love to catch a game when they can
                        Commoners, GEEEEEE's Come on Man:lol:
                        On the above statement, even as hard as it sounds to you and is real, It is a fact that it is what supports and the very reason why a lot of the rest exists/happens for the good of the university, the players and its students
                        I do understand friend

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SFP View Post
                          One game guys!
                          How can you say that? BU has already stated that all campus-site postseason home games will be played at the new arena.

                          Besides, how many non-conference home games will we have this season? Doesn't look like it's going to be many.....maybe as few as 4?
                          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            OOB -- if Bradley set up a game right now with EIU or even with a bigger name - then tried to sell tix at the new arena, it probably would NOT sell out....
                            that's why the NIT games only draw 4000, people just don't really wanna pay for a game vs. EIU or EIEIOU...so now BU is giving them that exact chance....
                            they don't have to buy the tix for the least desirable games nor are they forced to pay for 'em as part of the season ticket package...unless they want to...
                            but EVERYONE who wants tix will be able to get them!!
                            Have you not seen the attendance numbers from the last eight postseason games? I'm not sure what year it was that BU drew 4,000 people to any postseason game.
                            ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
                              do the math...
                              And 4000 disgruntled fans that would have went to the game!
                              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by FortyTwo View Post
                                No one is talking about moving multiple, meaningful games out of the PCC and no one is telling you that you can't go to the game, just go buy a ticket like the commoners do for every game.
                                I guess NIT games would not be considered "meaningful" at this point? I would hope the administration feels all games are "meaningful". Maybe we can ask JL exactly which games aren't.

                                By the way, I'm quite proud to be a "commoner". I have the season ticket package for conference games, then I pick and choose (with the rest of the commoners) which non-conference games I attend, as many games as my schedule allows. It's actually worked out quite well for me.
                                ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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