We've Got Issues.

[Stryker]

Does anyone recall all the clammoring we had to get new blood up on the hilltop...
to hire new people with new ideas....to run out the old crowd, bring in people who are going to make changes....etc...
And I even recall for the large part exactly who were the people most loudly clammoring for those changes, and guess what?

Well, as I noted elsewhere, this is PRECISELY what we have....and I find it odd that the people who most strongly applauded
those personnel changes we got, are also the ones who are whining about the decisions they are making at Bradley...and the direction they are taking the program!
Hypocrisy - pure and simple... you asked for it, now you have exactly what you asked for, and bingo - not happy....so predictable..
Maybe now some more firings and re-shuffling....

So because some of us disagree with one decision the new administration has made we are hypocrites? I still think they are better than the old but I don't agree with this decision. It's one point. One Isolated decision among many that the new admin has made since it was put in place.

SFP - Show me how having one game in the new on campus arena is going to create a better enviroment for the the future of Bradley Mens Basketball and better its legacy??? This is a me first situation. Every sports team knows that. Please the fans and you will improve the program. Yes the me first attitude has just about ruined this country, but in sports it is appropiate!

I'm fine with an exhibition game being at the new arena, but not post season and not a regular season game. Tell me again how this helps the university and the program? Because they don't have to pay the PCC? I think it is pretty marginal in the long run especially if they see a decrease in monetary support for not having games at the PCC. That is a very large percentage of season ticket holders they will be excluding from games, whether it is one regular season game or several post season games.

Use the exhibition game to showcase the new arena and then use it for the other sports at BU and not the Mens Basketball team.

[tornado]

I stand by my statement -- and I have no idea if you are among the people I refer to...

but for the past 3-4 years many have said publicly and posted on the boards that we need to run certain people out and get new personnel and idea...

As I said -- now we have that and bingo -- it doesn't seem to be making anyone happy....and those that are the most vocal are the very ones who most wanted all the changes!!!!!
Please note, that not every decision nor ever personnel change is what I would have done, some took me quite by surprise and shocked me ---BUT --...
regardless.......I seem to be one of the only ones who is NOT constantly complaining !!!!!
Those that demanded changes are now the most vocal complainers about EVERYTHING!!!! ...About the new proposed changes such as playing in the new arena, landing army-recruits, aiming access to tickets at the "elite" and giving them "excess" to special perks, trying to make more profit and generate new revenue with new ideas, and even going on the road to play Duke, etc...
There's a handful of people just just never seem happy about anything...

De ja vu.... we went through all this back in 2001-2002...and the whiners got their way.....they ran Mo out then turned their whining against JL and wondered why we were under .500 back in 2002-2004 when Mo had recruited such high caliber kids......and lamented how NBA caliber players left Bradley and went to New Mexico to bash BU...

[Out of Balance]

So because some of us disagree with one decision the new administration has made we are hypocrites? I still think they are better than the old but I don't agree with this decision. It's one point. One Isolated decision among many that the new admin has made since it was put in place.

SFP - Show me how having one game in the new on campus arena is going to create a better enviroment for the the future of Bradley Mens Basketball and better its legacy???

I'm fine with an exhibition game being at the new arena, but not post season and not a regular season game. Tell me again how this helps the university and the program? Because they don't have to pay the PCC? I think it is pretty marginal in the long run especially if they see a decrease in monetary support for not having games at the PCC. That is a very large percentage of season ticket holders they will be excluding from games, whether it is one regular season game or several post season games.

Use the exhibition game to showcase the new arena and then use it for the other sports at BU and not the Mens Basketball team.

Agreed Also by cutting a lot of season ticket holders from any post season
games and any games a year, then would it be fair to say that those holers should have to pay less for their season tickets and less or no maintenance fees

[dogsrus]

So because some of us disagree with one decision the new administration has made we are hypocrites? I still think they are better than the old but I don't agree with this decision. It's one point. One Isolated decision among many that the new admin has made since it was put in place.

SFP - Show me how having one game in the new on campus arena is going to create a better enviroment for the the future of Bradley Mens Basketball and better its legacy??? This is a me first situation. Every sports team knows that. Please the fans and you will improve the program. Yes the me first attitude has just about ruined this country, but in sports it is appropiate!

I'm fine with an exhibition game being at the new arena, but not post season and not a regular season game. Tell me again how this helps the university and the program? Because they don't have to pay the PCC? I think it is pretty marginal in the long run especially if they see a decrease in monetary support for not having games at the PCC. That is a very large percentage of season ticket holders they will be excluding from games, whether it is one regular season game or several post season games.

Use the exhibition game to showcase the new arena and then use it for the other sports at BU and not the Mens Basketball team.

exactly......

[Out of Balance]

I stand by my statement -- and I have no idea if you are among the people I refer to...

but for the past 3-4 years many have said publicly and posted on the boards that we need to run certain people out and get new personnel and idea...

As I said -- now we have that and bingo -- it doesn't seem to be making anyone happy....and those that are the most vocal are the very ones who most wanted all the changes!!!!!
Please note, that not every decision nor ever personnel change is what I would have done, some took me quite by surprise and shocked me ---BUT --...
regardless.......I seem to be one of the only ones who is NOT constantly complaining !!!!!
They are now the most vocal about the new proposed changes such as playing in the new arena, landing army-recruits, aiming access to tickets at the "elite" and giving them "excess" to special perks, trying to make more profit and generate new revenue with new ideas, and even going on the road to play Duke, etc...

That statement is BS, T I have been very vocal the last couple days on this subject and never once have I said some one should be run off. Check all my posts Matter of fact I have been just the opposite I even was at the send off thing for KK and have been very out spoken at the whole sale changes made so far by the present Admin. To throw out BS as you have to the many who don't agree with this subject, well is BS to
Come on Man

[tornado]

it is true...if you don't see yourself in the group I described, it hardly means the comment is BS

I reiterate -- for those who want to jump to conclusions..
a significant number of (not all) those complaining about the actions at BU and unhappy with certain decisions, announcements, and happenings,
are indeed the very ones who wanted the changes made that lead directly to those actions.

[Beninator]

I see on the PJ Star board where someone is saying the Civic Center and Deb Ritchel have stated that if BU moves a game they would be in breach of contract.....interesting.

I find this comment interesting given that BU has played some games at the Fieldhouse in the past while under contract with the PCC. Granted they were exhibition games...

[SFP]

SFP - Show me how having one game in the new on campus arena is going to create a better enviroment for the the future of Bradley Mens Basketball and better its legacy??? This is a me first situation. Every sports team knows that. Please the fans and you will improve the program. Yes the me first attitude has just about ruined this country, but in sports it is appropiate!

Maybe if you give it a chance the possibility of getting the students involved early on will be a great investment for the University. Me first statement kinda of made me chuckle. This could be played out both ways. Perhaps playing one game at the new arena will bring in the needed revenue to fund other programs and your me first attitude on this issue is bad for the school.

BTW...I understand yours and all the other guys who cannot understand why BU would shaft them for one game. It really is a difference of priorities. Not always does an institution and the whole customer base see eye to eye. That's just life. I just want BU to create a solid foundation for the long-term as long as it does not have huge cost to it.

[shaunguth]

BTW...I understand yours and all the other guys who cannot understand why BU would shaft them for one game. It really is a difference of priorities. Not always does an institution and the whole customer base see eye to eye. That's just life. I just want BU to create a solid foundation for the long-term as long as it does not have huge cost to it.

As I've said before, I have slightly less problem playing a regular season game against a "lesser" opponent than I do moving all home postseason games to the new arena! I'm not sure how that does anything positive for the longterm fanbase.

[BUFanatic]

As I've said before, I have slightly less problem playing a regular season game against a "lesser" opponent than I do moving all home postseason games to the new arena! I'm not sure how that does anything positive for the longterm fanbase.

Agreed!

[ph]

I find this comment interesting given that BU has played some games at the Fieldhouse in the past while under contract with the PCC. Granted they were exhibition games...

Was there not a regular season game vs WIU at the fieldhouse? And was there this much complaining then?

[Stryker]

Maybe if you give it a chance the possibility of getting the students involved early on will be a great investment for the University. Me first statement kinda of made me chuckle. This could be played out both ways. Perhaps playing one game at the new arena will bring in the needed revenue to fund other programs and your me first attitude on this issue is bad for the school.

BTW...I understand yours and all the other guys who cannot understand why BU would shaft them for one game. It really is a difference of priorities. Not always does an institution and the whole customer base see eye to eye. That's just life. I just want BU to create a solid foundation for the long-term as long as it does not have huge cost to it.

SFP~ your great guy I hate to argue with you so maybe I will just have to agree to disagree on this one issue lol. With this issue I just want to see something semi-concrete to argue for the decision. SFP you say it will get the students much more involved because it is on campus. As a relatively recent graduate of BU (its been a few years now) there just wasn't a huge following of basketball among the general student population.

Those that loved it were at every game no matter what. The "fair weather" students showed up to the big games etc. Having an event on campus might get you an increase in the freshmen, but probably not any of the other classes, at least by a large margin. I just don't think the effect would be big enough to offset the season ticket holders that would be excluded.

T~ I think you are going off about an entirely different issue altogther. Again it is one isolated decision that some of the fan base is upset with, not some continuous agenda a group of fans has against the administration or something similar.

[Beninator]

Was there not a regular season game vs WIU at the fieldhouse? And was there this much complaining then?

Didn't the Fieldhouse, albeit ancient, have a larger seating capacity than the new facilities? Playing the exhibition game at the new facilities does not bother me. I am not a fan of having a regular season game there and I dislike having a post season game at the new facilities! Maybe somebody has some information on this, but does anyone know how many tickets at these campus games are going to be allocated to the students? Hopefully we will be dancing this year and won't have to worry about the post season part of the schedule!

[tornado]

Was there not a regular season game vs WIU at the fieldhouse? And was there this much complaining then?

there has been only ONE regular season game at the Fieldhouse or away from the Civic Center since 1982..
it was a 1995 game against a non-DI opponent, Illinois Wesleyan (IWU)....possibly what you meant by WIU

Didn't the Fieldhouse, albeit ancient, have a larger seating capacity than the new facilities? ..

In it's heyday the Fieldhouse could accomodate nearly 8000, but year by year adjustments for the sake of fire regulations, better comfort, etc...gradually reduced the seating capacity to more like 7000.
Then in the 1980's when BU utilized some of the Fieldhouse space for other purposes, training facilities, athletic dept. offices, etc...
then the seating was further reduced to a little over 5000, but it didn't really matter since nothing was being held there any more that would draw that much anyway.

Lastly...even though the final seating capacity was about 5000 (just a little over the new arena) only about 3000 of those people actually had seats that were worth anything, so the new arena will give more people, even better seats.

[shaunguth]

Maybe somebody has some information on this, but does anyone know how many tickets at these campus games are going to be allocated to the students?

4,200 Seats (approximately)

- 500 Personal Seat Option ticketing plan ($500 or $1000)

- 600 Reserved for students

- 150 Participating teams' comp lists

= 2,950 Available to the general public