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I think if we got U of I in an NIT game, they'd probably strike a deal to have it at the Civic Center..otherwise, since almost all the post season games draw 5000 or so or less, then I am OK having them on campus
I've posted these numbers before, but here they are again.....
I posted the last three postseasons' attendance at Carver Arena in another thread......
5,928.....2008-09.....CIT.....4 games
6,851.....2007-08.....CBI.....3 games
8,304.....2006-07.....NIT.....1 game
4,472.....Lowest
9,014.....Highest
6,571.....Average attendance
Only three of the last eight postseason games at Carver were under 6,100. I'm sure these numbers are closer to the actual attendance than regular season games, since they are not part of the season ticket package.
I'm not sure how that translates into "almost all the post season games draw 5000 or so or less".
I don't think ANY regular season or postseason game belongs in the new arena.
???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
I went on a college visit to Bradley today (saw the new rec facility, NICE!) And our STUDENT guide said that there's a rumor that the home Illinois State game is going to be held at the new arena. WTF!? Can anyone confirm or deny?
As someone who hears a number of the tours, their information is accurate maybe 20% of the time, and I'm being as generous as I possibly can.
That said, their job is to sell the school. And by the time those future student arrive on campus, they probably don't remember much from their tour.
Though they try hard and do a good job otherwise, they don't always speak the truth.
I applied for that tour guide dealio and made it to the final round and was cut with 20ish people left....(probably because of my grades sophomore year ) I would have said BU has won 32 national championships.
I felt like I would dominate tours and up enrollment 40% and I am from P-town so I have that knowledge too!
of course, the official slide show said we still had an Opera company in Peoria. Oh, and the Peoria Pirates so...
... At the end, of the storm, there's a golden sky. And the sweet silver song of the lark. Walk on, through the wind, walk on, through the rain, though your dreams be tossed, and blown. Walk on, Walk on with hope in your hearts, and you'll never walk alone!
I'm behind you 100% Bradley Braves, You'll Never Walk Alone! BEAT STATE!
I'll say it again as it bears repeating......the NIT is the ONLY acceptable post season tourney thats NOT the NCAA and in no way shape or form should that be held at the new arena.
IF its an EIEIO tourney we have bigger issues then what facility we will play in.....
It seems pretty apparent the BU is going to play one regular season game in the new arena. I dont really see anything coming from the athletic administration that is disputing that.
Bottom line is they need to have those PSL sold and the best way to move those PSL licenses is give those willing to put out the money an incentive... a yearly Mens Home Basketball regualar season game.
I just have a difficult time believing they will sell all 1000 of those licenses with the incentive being womans vball or basketball.
If some individuals are upset about not being able to go to a game and refuse to renew season tickets over this, BU probably will not be overjoyed but likely the ones cancelling are not high end donors and also are not who would be willing to give money for those licenses. So if they lose some, probably not a huge deal, because the "money" will continue to come in.
I dont think it has anything to do with crowd size, it has simply to do with the licenses and making money donors happiest.
It seems pretty apparent the BU is going to play one regular season game in the new arena. I dont really see anything coming from the athletic administration that is disputing that.
Bottom line is they need to have those PSL sold and the best way to move those PSL licenses is give those willing to put out the money an incentive... a yearly Mens Home Basketball regualar season game.
I just have a difficult time believing they will sell all 1000 of those licenses with the incentive being womans vball or basketball.
If some individuals are upset about not being able to go to a game and refuse to renew season tickets over this, BU probably will not be overjoyed but likely the ones cancelling are not high end donors and also are not who would be willing to give money for those licenses. So if they lose some, probably not a huge deal, because the "money" will continue to come in.
I dont think it has anything to do with crowd size, it has simply to do with the licenses and making money donors happiest.
I have been a season ticket holder for a long, long, long time I buy my seats and pay my maintenance fees to see all BU's home games in my seats at the CC Also in purchasing season tickets comes my entitlement to purchase any post season home games in my season ticket seats. The red and white scrimmage and any exhibition games are a different story I do pay extra to attend all of them each year The facility was built to house women games and to be used as a practice place for both women and men. Any change in this is just BS and just another way to scam the season ticket holders
It seems pretty apparent the BU is going to play one regular season game in the new arena. I dont really see anything coming from the athletic administration that is disputing that.
Bottom line is they need to have those PSL sold and the best way to move those PSL licenses is give those willing to put out the money an incentive... a yearly Mens Home Basketball regualar season game.
I just have a difficult time believing they will sell all 1000 of those licenses with the incentive being womans vball or basketball.
If some individuals are upset about not being able to go to a game and refuse to renew season tickets over this, BU probably will not be overjoyed but likely the ones cancelling are not high end donors and also are not who would be willing to give money for those licenses. So if they lose some, probably not a huge deal, because the "money" will continue to come in.
I dont think it has anything to do with crowd size, it has simply to do with the licenses and making money donors happiest.
Not directed at you but HOGWASH.....IF thats how BU thinks and shows the money donors love while cr@ppin on the "little" guy I'll lose respect for them real fast.
I understand money and taking care of donors but NOT at the expense of fans that have been loyal to the program for 10, 20, 30 and 40+ years.
I don't care HOW much money you raise if you don't have a stable base of fans from ALL donation and income levels you might as well start a polo team becuase the hoops team will crash real fast.
The ONE thing you DON'T do is deny anyone willing to buy a ticket a chance to see a game..... period..... end of discussion.
BU hasn't been successful all these years becuase of deep pockets...they have been successful becuase we have an undeniable family atmosphere where once you are a Brave (fan OR player) you are a Brave for life.
And in MY family we don't deny Uncle Joe a seat at the Thanksgiving table becuase he didn't or couldn't fork over money to help cover the cost of the Turkey.
I have been a season ticket holder for a long, long, long time I buy my seats and pay my maintenance fees to see all BU's home games in my seats at the CC Also in purchasing season tickets comes my entitlement to purchase any post season home games in my season ticket seats. The red and white scrimmage and any exhibition games are a different story I do pay extra to attend all of them each year The facility was built to house women games and to be used as a practice place for both women and men. Any change in this is just BS and just another way to scam the season ticket holders
Not directed at you but HOGWASH.....IF thats how BU thinks and shows the money donors love while cr@ppin on the "little" guy I'll lose respect for them real fast.
I understand money and taking care of donors but NOT at the expense of fans that have been loyal to the program for 10, 20, 30 and 40+ years.
I don't care HOW much money you raise if you don't have a stable base of fans from ALL donation and income levels you might as well start a polo team becuase the hoops team will crash real fast.
The ONE thing you DON'T do is deny anyone willing to buy a ticket a chance to see a game..... period..... end of discussion.
BU hasn't been successful all these years becuase of deep pockets...they have been successful becuase we have an undeniable family atmosphere where once you are a Brave (fan OR player) you are a Brave for life.
And in MY family we don't deny Uncle Joe a seat at the Thanksgiving table becuase he didn't or couldn't fork over money to help cover the cost of the Turkey.
Couple of things then:
Why does BU want to play any Mens games in the new arena? If it isnt to make the individuals(donors) who will buy the licenses happy, then why? It makes no other sense to move to a smaller arena when you already out sell that smaller arena for any game at Carver?
And playing a little devils advocate. If you sell out Carver at 11K+ isnt that next person being denied a ticket because of the lack of available seats?
Anyway, I think this is nothing but making those who are willing to buy a license happy or to just justify the $1000.00 that must be spent to have the right for a seat in the new arena.
And it really seems by moving even one home game to this arena the BU administration is doing exactly as you say you would never do...providing a game with limited access for those who have been loyal for years and years.
It is very apparent that BU's concern is NOT those individuals.. unless they are willing to pay for the license.
I can not see any other reason to move a game to campus, well other then now they can and try to flex muscles at the Civic Center.
Why does BU want to play any Mens games in the new arena? If it isnt to make the individuals(donors) who will buy the licenses happy, then why? It makes no other sense to move to a smaller arena when you already out sell that smaller arena for any game at Carver?
And playing a little devils advocate. If you sell out Carver at 11K+ isnt that next person being denied a ticket because of the lack of available seats?
Anyway, I think this is nothing but making those who are willing to buy a license happy or to just justify the $1000.00 that must be spent to have the right for a seat in the new arena.
And it really seems by moving even one home game to this arena the BU administration is doing exactly as you say you would never do...providing a game with limited access for those who have been loyal for years and years.
It is very apparent that BU's concern is NOT those individuals.. unless they are willing to pay for the license.
I can not see any other reason to move a game to campus, well other then now they can and try to flex muscles at the Civic Center.
Sorry...the "hogwash" wasn't directed at your reasoning as I believe you are probably correct. Whats hogwash is that they would even consider doing it.
As far as taking care of the loyal big donors...fine just not at the expense of the little guys by denying them a chance at a game. I mean you are taking away the very essence of why we are BU fans...THE GAMES. There are countless other ways to show love to the $$ donors that don't involve ONE of a limited # of home games. Buy em a car or something....
Good point about ticket seeker #11,401 who fails to get into a game....I thought of that but I think its understood that if a game is sold out at you MAIN arena you should have got there earlier, those are just the breaks. Its not being denied by not having donated enough $$$.....
Wouldn't you think if thats the case, then why wasn't the new campus site built to at lease house the number of season ticket holder's
) I would have said BU has won 32 national championships.
I buy my seats and pay my maintenance fees to see all BU's home games in my seats at the CC
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