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Carmichael looked good when he played us, and I thought he was good, but it's pretty hard to argue with those numbers. Based on his averages last year and how much weaker ILSU's team is I think expectations should probably be tempered for Carmichael.
Another factor that made Carmichael look good at times is that he played a lot of minutes as ISUs backup center, and therefore went against a lot of backup post players on ISUs schedule.
This year he will be against mostly 1st string centers, and it will make a difference.
My Salukis may finish in last but Gene Teague should be on this list.
It was just my opinion not to include GT on the list.
I thought others would have put him on theirs.
He could be a dominant big in the Valley, but everyone will be keying in on him this season. If Fay has a good season, maybe that will ease the pressure on Teague. I think Van Deest is a little ahead though - maybe because he played more than Teague from the get-go, and has good touch from a little farther away from the basket. The best of both worlds is to have Van Deest in Teague's body.
I was thinking more about contenders - which SIU likely will not be one next season. I had to include Colt from EU (Freshman POY) just because he's the heart and soul of the team and had such an impressive freshman season.
I think a lot of us are biased because Simms-Edwards is a Brave and we've seen amazing things from him already. I think he's a game-changer, and will help us this season, and will be our star guard 2 years after. We have a few outstanding senior guards heading into next season, which may overshadow DSE, but he will be a big key.
Indiana State, Illinois State, SIU, and UNI have a lot of minutes to replace - perhaps the four teams with the most to replace in the MVC -- nearly 45%, 50%, 42%, and 40%, respectively....and each and loses 3 starters...
Drake and Creighton are right behind in the 30-35% range...
Bradley lost one starter, and only a little over 20% of their minutes lost...
so I will take super-seniors over super-sophs just about any time......
Are we really that talented at the guard position this year?
If everyone stays healthy, and with WL on board, we have the best depth in guards in the Valley - no doubt.
I will have to see more of him to bestow such accolades on him this early, and IMO he is not even in the converstion of best big man in the MVC, yet.
He had a couple nice games, but was MIA in many others, like-
He had 0 points and 1 rebound against Morehead State
3 points and 0 rebounds against Dayton
5 points 1 rebound at UNI
2 points 1 rebound at Creighton
He had 20 games with 6 points or less- for the best young big man in the MVC, where was the offense?
He had 10 games with 2 rebounds or less! and 17 games with 3 rebounds or less.
His season totals of 6.8 ppg and 4.1 rpg are very David Collins-esque.
BB, I think you may be dekluded by the game he played at Bradley (one of the best games he had all year) when he scored 12 and had 7 rebounds. But he was very inconsistent. Let's see how well he does without Dinma around, and with a weaker perimeter team. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/88746
This is why I was reluctant to put him on my Top 5 list. A lot may change without Dinma. Carmichael and Lewis are scrappy players and score on lay-ups mostly. Would be nice to have a couple bangers like them on BU.
Taylor Brown's numbers as a freshmen were 3.4 ppg & 3.0 rpg. However, I think most everybody on this board knew that he was going to be a very good player. I doubt many other fans knew it. Somewhere in those 11mpg you could tell that there was something different.
You see guys like DSE and Carmichael as freshmen and it's pretty obvious they have more talent than most of the incoming guys. As freshmen, they have their faults. You also assume that they are going to have the most improvement from one year to the next. That's why I'm interested to see if DSE will improve more on his ballhandling skills to be more of a point guard type player or if he will improve his outside shooting. The nice part is that he doesn't need to add bulk like most freshmen.
I hope Carmichael is overwhelmed or always in foul trouble. Anybody certainly can have a sophomore slump. I would just guess he won't.
I didn't see the other guys on the list enough. I do know that I was happy when Teague was forced to sit against BU.
Are we really that talented at the guard position this year?...
we have two guards that return as seniors (one of whom is a 5th year senior)
and both are among the top 2 in returning scoring in the Valley..
Warren is #1 at 14.7 ppg, Maniscalco is #2 at 14.3 ppg.
Then add Dodie who has a double digit career scoring average at BU..and that gives us 3 of the best guards in the Valley...
The only other guards that return with a double digit average are Colt Ryan (14.3), Adam Leonard (13.2), Jermaine Mallett (12.2), Denver Holmes (12.2), Toure Murry (11.1), Ryan Wedel (11.0), Kwadzo Ahelegbe (10.6)
(Lathan did not play enough league games to qualify his stats but he did average 9.5 ppg in eight league games)
As for how Lathan will do this season....hard to judge - as he only had one really breakout game....
.....in his final two games last season...
--one he was 9-16, 5-7 from 3pt, scoring 27 pts...
--the other he was 2-10 and 0-3 from 3pt, scoring just 8 pts.
Our Injury bug last season seemed to be his problem so all we have to hope for is less bad luck lol...
Of your main seven guys who would have started games, you lost 41 games to injury or discipline (Marshall missed 7 games, Lathan 12, Kelly 20, Richard 2)
Bradley's top 7 guys lost 38 games to injury or discipline (Brown 4, Dunson 29, DSE 5) - almost the exact same amount.....so sorry sycfan.....we were just as snake-bitten...but we've had it several years in a row...
Our Injury bug last season seemed to be his problem so all we have to hope for is less bad luck lol...
So if all the Sycamores stay healthy, do you think you guys are good enough to finish in the top 5 in the Valley this season? New coach and all?
It could happen, but it will be tough. Marshall and Reed were big losses.
You still have pretty good guards in Carter, Kelly, and Printy. Much like us, the Syc's inside game will be the question mark, though we both have legit scorers in T. Brown and D. Lathan.
I see there are 4 RS freshmen on the roster. Any of them looking to make an impact?
He wasn't really jacking threes...people weren't guarding him at the line because he was killing them to get to the basket....maybe the loss has something to do with the 7 and a half healthy players we have....He was 5 for 7 from three and 6 of them were open shots according to more defined statistics....
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