What's up with Mo?

[Da Coach]

FWIW-
Here are last year's conference stats-

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFONLY.HTM

Bradley has 3 of the top 12 returning rebounders from last year.
Only BU and MSU have more than 1 of the top returning rebounders.

I am not worried about rebounding next year.

[LittleBrave]

You would have to be overdosing on Red Kool Aide if you could not see that our lack of rebounding and the lack of interior defense/offense has been a direct reflection of the lack of success Bradley has had on the basketball floor since 2006.

No overdosing here!
Though some of last season's losses could be attributed to a lack of focus and intensity at times, but I think that will change next season.

[tornado]

...He was a good solid basketball player at ISU ....

another thing you must have missed is that in many of my recent posts about OE, this is exactly what I have said...
...although I back it up with a lot of numbers (not one single stat) that I cite rather than just base it on a subjective feeling..

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=184476#post184476

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15803&page=2

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=166295#post166295

and all I ever said that you seem to be going after me for is that over a 4-5 year stretch Creighton was likewise outrebounded and I never heard anyone say Dana recruited all the wrong players...
That's just factual...take it or leave it.......
If you still believe it is wrong to look at one stat (your word was "wrong" not mine)...then take it up with the poster who was the first to check just one single stat and make an issue of it in this thread...

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=184985&postcount=16

[wizard1]

What's up with MO?

Coach--- I'm not "wailing" or "gnashing my teeth" and I sure don't believe "
the sky is falling" so I hope you can stop ridiculing honest viewpoints that don't necessarily agree with you.
Again, here is the truth regarding our situation, as I see it.
1) Our recruits are good players but not great players. In the past, we have recruited great players, some that were nationally recognized and some that were under the radar and were recruited based on shrewd and very accurate evaluations of their talent by our coaches. POB was a high draft choice based on two NCAA games but he was inconsistant while at BU and hasn't done much at all in the NBA. I hope I am wrong and our current recruits and players turn out to be great!
2) Our conference record has very clearly been mediocre for the past several years When does this cease? This is a fair question and should not be ridiculed by you or anyone else.
3) A number of our recruits in recent years were major disappointments and didn't work out. Of course, this happens to most programs but we seem to have more than most.

Again, I hope that I am wrong and we have a great year with outstanding players---Time will tell but if things continue as they have, we are going to have to have the guts to take off those rose colored glasses.

[BradleyBrave]

Coach--- I'm not "wailing" or "gnashing my teeth" and I sure don't believe "
the sky is falling" so I hope you can stop ridiculing honest viewpoints that don't necessarily agree with you.
Again, here is the truth regarding our situation, as I see it.
1) Our recruits are good players but not great players. In the past, we have recruited great players, some that were nationally recognized and some that were under the radar and were recruited based on shrewd and very accurate evaluations of their talent by our coaches. POB was a high draft choice based on two NCAA games but he was inconsistant while at BU and hasn't done much at all in the NBA. I hope I am wrong and our current recruits and players turn out to be great!
2) Our conference record has very clearly been mediocre for the past several years When does this cease? This is a fair question and should not be ridiculed by you or anyone else.
3) A number of our recruits in recent years were major disappointments and didn't work out. Of course, this happens to most programs but we seem to have more than most.

Again, I hope that I am wrong and we have a great year with outstanding players---Time will tell but if things continue as they have, we are going to have to have the guts to take off those rose colored glasses.

Stop being fair and objective wizard.

[amckillip]

Coach--- I'm not "wailing" or "gnashing my teeth" and I sure don't believe "
the sky is falling" so I hope you can stop ridiculing honest viewpoints that don't necessarily agree with you.
Again, here is the truth regarding our situation, as I see it.
1) Our recruits are good players but not great players. In the past, we have recruited great players, some that were nationally recognized and some that were under the radar and were recruited based on shrewd and very accurate evaluations of their talent by our coaches. POB was a high draft choice based on two NCAA games but he was inconsistant while at BU and hasn't done much at all in the NBA. I hope I am wrong and our current recruits and players turn out to be great!

2) Fair point

3) A number of our recruits in recent years were major disappointments and didn't work out. Of course, this happens to most programs but we seem to have more than most.

Again, I hope that I am wrong and we have a great year with outstanding players---Time will tell but if things continue as they have, we are going to have to have the guts to take off those rose colored glasses.

Can you provide examples of programs who have regularly done better than BU in getting players into the NBA as high draft picks (which IMO has absolutely ZERO bearing on NCAA success, but you seem to think it's important), and programs that have a higher rate of success with recruits?

I am thoroughly expecting an 'Other programs don't matter' post somewhere in here (not from you wizard), but we are clearly comparing programs already so please spare me this argument.

[amckillip]

Stop being fair and objective wizard.

How is he being any more fair or objective than anyone else. He said we're not producing high NBA picks when in fact, BU has produced the only lottery pick in the MVC (That I recall) since, well, BU produced the last lottery pick two decades ago.

Say you agree with him, not insinuate that he's more fair or objective than anyone else.

[Scotty D.]

Welcome to the board Scotty D.

Just my 2 cents... I haven't seen AD, but I'm putting more hope in AT contributing more than AD.

Well my curiosity was piqued and I went to look for some tapes of him on YouTube and managed to only find one tape of him. Don't know if everyone's seen it or if it's of any interest to anyone but I thought I would just share it with you all. Look's like he has decent shot-blocking and rebounding abilities in the film but it's only two games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sUhjyr_o

[Beninator]

Well my curiosity was piqued and I went to look for some tapes of him on YouTube and managed to only find one tape of him. Don't know if everyone's seen it or if it's of any interest to anyone but I thought I would just share it with you all. Look's like he has decent shot-blocking and rebounding abilities in the film but it's only two games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sUhjyr_o

I just watched the tape. As with most tapes of this nature, only the highlights are going to be shown. The only thing that I can take away from this is that he may be able to run the court fairly well for a big guy. IMO anything further can not be evaluated because of the size difference between AD and his opponents.

[real fan]

I think our overall recruiting has been good, we just need a true center in order to get us to that next level of winning championships, we lost a lot of games that we could have won if we had a post player that could defend and rebound, not being critical of Will Egolf but he is not a college center, I think A.Davis appears to be a good recruit but probably at least 1 year away from being good enough and strong enough to go up against the good centers in the Valley, M.O. appears to have the mature body that we need to contribute next season as there is a big difference between 6-10 210 lbs. and 18 years old compared to 6-8 255 and 21 years old.

[AZ BU Fan]

I can understand why BU can't talk about MO while recruiting him. Perhaps our crackerjack PJS sports reporters can dig into the MO story and let us know what the heck is going on with MO and his desire to play college basketball in the US, particularly at BU.

What's Flash's opinion about the MO situation, or, AD's potential for BU?

I'd volunteer to go to the Canary Islands and interview the kid.

[Da Coach]

What's Flash's opinion about the MO situation, or, AD's potential for BU?

Who?
Flash? I would be shocked if he even knew who he was. I am sure he's never seem MO.

[BradleyBrave]

How is he being any more fair or objective than anyone else. He said we're not producing high NBA picks when in fact, BU has produced the only lottery pick in the MVC (That I recall) since, well, BU produced the last lottery pick two decades ago.

Say you agree with him, not insinuate that he's more fair or objective than anyone else.

I just thanked him for being fair and objective. I never mentioned anyone else.

[BradleyJD]

It's good to know I can be gone fishing for a week and still find everything is 100% the same here as when I left it.

Good to see things stay the same!

[amckillip]

How is he being any more fair or objective than anyone else. He said we're not producing high NBA picks when in fact, BU has produced the only lottery pick in the MVC (That I recall) since, well, BU produced the last lottery pick two decades ago.

Say you agree with him, not insinuate that he's more fair or objective than anyone else.

I just thanked him for being fair and objective. I never mentioned anyone else.

Once again, how is he any more fair or objective than the rest of us? I don't think you can point to an instance where he is, other than the fact he agrees with your opinions, and to you that is fair and objective. Though many of his statements, such as saying we don't produce high-pick NBA players, are clearly not objective when taken in context.