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  • Guess who is put on probation and why?

    The NCAA has decided to put the University of San Francisco on probation for two years after more than a dozen athletes spent more than $13,000 in scholarship money to improperly buy textbooks.


    Imagine they used the money on text books! $15 K...NCAA is a piece of work.
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    • #3
      And schools like Kansas, USC, IU, and Memphis get off with no punishment. This makes me sick.

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      • #4
        Losing one scholarship for two years for paying players is nothing.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bdhove12 View Post
          Losing one scholarship for two years for paying players is nothing.
          Then why cant the NCAA seem to do the same to programs like USC, etc?

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            I'm sure you won't hear anybody on ESPN crying about how harsh this punishment was like they were for USC.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
              Then why cant the NCAA seem to do the same to programs like USC, etc?
              USC was put on probation, lost scholarships, and received a post-season ban. It's going to be awhile before USC can get back on top.

              Only having 12 of 13 scholarships for 2 years is not a big deal at all. It's fairly common for teams to only have 12 scholarship players because of transfers, APR, etc. This is nothing.

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              • #8
                I wonder if the people from the NCAA who arrived at this decision remember the controversies that happened at USF in the 1970's and early 80's. I am not saying this is right, but it may explain the harsh punishment to a degree.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bdhove12 View Post
                  USC was put on probation, lost scholarships, and received a post-season ban. It's going to be awhile before USC can get back on top.
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                  not the basketball team, they basically got nothing for their cheatnig

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bdhove12 View Post
                    USC was put on probation, lost scholarships, and received a post-season ban. It's going to be awhile before USC can get back on top.

                    Only having 12 of 13 scholarships for 2 years is not a big deal at all. It's fairly common for teams to only have 12 scholarship players because of transfers, APR, etc. This is nothing.
                    USC basketball got nothing. The football cheating overshadowed the OJ Mayo stuff(which DWARFS what San Fran is doing here).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                      USC basketball got nothing. The football cheating overshadowed the OJ Mayo stuff(which DWARFS what San Fran is doing here).
                      Not true. The NCAA found the basketball program's self-imposed punishent to be sufficient. USC basketball suspended itself from postseason play last season, reduced its scholarship limit from 13 to 12 for 2009-10 and 2010-11, forfeited 20 days of recruiting for the upcoming season and reduced its total number of coaches allowed to recruit from three to two.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bdhove12 View Post
                        Not true. The NCAA found the basketball program's self-imposed punishent to be sufficient. USC basketball suspended itself from postseason play last season, reduced its scholarship limit from 13 to 12 for 2009-10 and 2010-11, forfeited 20 days of recruiting for the upcoming season and reduced its total number of coaches allowed to recruit from three to two.
                        Sorry, I was speaking from a practicality perspective, not a literal. Effectively, they got the same thing as San Francisco here, and the violations were FAR worse.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                          Sorry, I was speaking from a practicality perspective, not a literal. Effectively, they got the same thing as San Francisco here, and the violations were FAR worse.
                          Yes, USC's violations were far worse, but so was their punishment.

                          Also, after re-reading the San Francisco, I realize that I was mistaken earlier and they only lost one scholarship and that was during 2008-2009. Now they have two years probation, which doesn't mean anything unless they screw up again.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bdhove12 View Post
                            Yes, USC's violations were far worse, but so was their punishment.

                            Also, after re-reading the San Francisco, I realize that I was mistaken earlier and they only lost one scholarship and that was during 2008-2009. Now they have two years probation, which doesn't mean anything unless they screw up again.
                            How was their punishment that much worse? They effectively lost one scholarship a year longer...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                              How was their punishment that much worse? They effectively lost one scholarship a year longer...
                              Well, they were also banned from postseason play for one year, lost 20 recruiting days, reduced number of coaches allowed to recruit, vacated all wins from the season Mayo played, forced to give back $206,200 in which the received for their 2008 tourney appearance, and will forfeit all future payments for that appearance which amounts to close to $1.5 million. Yeah, that is much worse.

                              Also, don't kid yourself. If Kentucky did what San Francisco I'm sure you would be going crazy that the NCAA let them the go with a slap on the wrist.

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