Osiris Eldridge going in the 2nd round of the draft?

[tornado]

I don't deny, and I think he's fortunate and I am happy for him that he is getting interest from some NBA teams..
they might just take a chance on his with his athleticism as they did on athletic kids like Nate Robinson, Speedy Claxton, Jamario Moon, and even like they did with POB on his height...

[shaunguth]

Maybe we can ask JL during his next Q&A what he thought it was like to prepare against him.

I'd say JL did pretty good preparing against king o, considering his numbers in the three isu wins the past couple seasons weren't exactly up to par for a guy who many people think was the best player in the conference.

[Nacho]

I'd say JL did pretty good preparing against king o, considering his numbers in the three isu wins the past couple seasons weren't exactly up to par for a guy who many people think was the best player in the conference.

I think his point is that coaches repeatedly have talked about how O is the most prepared for player in the league- which then obviously keeps there attention on him more than other players... like Dinma... who had some monster games vs. bradley and others...

[bufan73]

Osiris scored 1838 points on 1547 shots while at ISU...(1.188 pts/shot, and 0.84 shots required per point scored)

but just for the sake of argument, let's compare him to Sammy Maniscalco and Andrew Warren who have completed only 3 years at BU - and we'll take OE's 3-year numbers... 1325 points on 1115 shots (1.188 pts/shot, and 0.84 shots required per point scored)

Here's what our guys have...
Sammy 1152 pts on 835 shots (1.380 pts/shot and and 0.72 shots required per point scored)
Andrew 1019 pts on 755 shots (1.35 pts/shot and and 0.74 shots required per point scored)

Thus it is overwhelmingly clear that OE's efficiency is way less than many players,
and he gets his impressive point totals from the sheer volume of shots launched.

Just as a last stat...here are the career scoring numbers that I project Sammy and Andrew - two of OE's contemporaries - who over their careers have played FAR superrior talent and opponents, would have if they launched the same number of shots in their careers as King O...

Sammy - 2135
Andrew - 2088
both numbers would place Sammy & Andrew in 3rd place overall in career scoring at BRADLEY ...
BUT...both figures would place our guys breathing right down Doug Collins' neck as ISU's All Time leading scorer....(Collins had 2240, nobody else at ISU had more than 1962, and nobody had more than 1736 since ISU has actually been playing as a real Division I big school against D-I opponents.

So I agree that Osiris Eldridge is among ISU's all time best, and no doubt he'd have been a good player had he been at Bradley as well...but I am NOT convinced he is better than a couple guys we have on our roster right now!!

The big difference is that OE can shoot off the dribble or create his own shot. Sammy needs to be open to take his weak set shot.

[tornado]

I disagree, Sammy can create off the dribble better than anyone else on our team and better than just about anyone in the MVC

[AE Braves Fan]

The big difference is that OE can shoot off the dribble or create his own shot. Sammy needs to be open to take his weak set shot.

Really? I think Sammy deserves a lot more credit than that.

Countless times Sammy has created his own shot off the dribble. He's great at releasing the ball just at the right time with a seemingly awkward balance and arc to get the ball just over outstretched arms of big men.

[shaunguth]

The big difference is that OE can shoot off the dribble or create his own shot. Sammy needs to be open to take his weak set shot.

I'm gonna disagree here too. Through their first three seasons, SM has made a much higher percentage of his 2-point shots than king o. In fact, SM has yet to shoot under 51% from inside the arc and king o's best wasn't even 48%.

To me, that says SM is doing just fine shooting off the dribble and creating his own shot.

[SFP]

I'm not going to compare SM with OE two different players. I'm also going to say that SM strong suit is not to create his own shot off the dribble. Yes he was effective driving in but creating a shot off the dribble is a different concept then heading to the rack. DR and WF were the two BU players that had that ability. SM is a spot up shooter and when played tight he can drive by you but not a stop and pop, get lose with speed player. He's strong enough to use his body to head to the rim.

[tornado]

and the NBA has about as many 6-ft white PG's as they have 6-2 SG's

[tornado]

Ooops...maybe all the other reports were in error...
now it appears Osiris Eldridge is back to doing workouts with teams........

The Oregonian is reporting OE coming in to work out for the Blazers

http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman/status/16174631688

http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman/status/16174674699

[BUBrave28]

It's true SM is better driving to the hoop or with a set shot. But, Sam has gotten better creating a shot. Once some teams tried to cut his lanes off to the basket he started pulling the old JC stop-pivot-turnaround-jumper from the edges of the freethrow line. He's also gotten better coming off screens and hitting the 2pt jumper.

I think OE has a chance mainly because of his on-ball defense and quickness. When you combine that with his potential "upside" on the offensive end he starts to get interesting.

[amckillip]

I am just stratching my head now, if he did NOT improve much from his sophomore season to his senior season then why in the world did he get voted to 2 defensive all valley teams, 2 all valley conference teams, 2 first team all conference selections and was the voted overall best defender in the Valley in that same Sophomore to Senior seasons?

Please put aside the shooting in certain games or even overall and look at the body of work from baseline to baseline.

After everything I quoted for his career you still want to use shots, missed shots and % in the last minutes of a game as reasons to argue his career. The man put up extremely good numbers in his basketball career. Yes ISU did not always play big time competition but that is not got anything to do with OE. You play who you are dealt.

And my opinion, games are 40 minutes long and what happens at the 14 minute mark in the first is as important as what occurs with 2 minutes left. You take bad shots at the 14 minute mark can be just as hurtful as something deeper in the game. The ones in the last minutes are just more maginfied.

He got voted to those things based in hype. Every year was supposed to be the year he broke out. Anyone who watched last season could see SM should have been All-MVC over OE and each of the last two years OE hasn't even been the best player on his own team. Voting isn't everything, he was a solid player, but I agree with Tornado that his career, was equal, if not less than that of SM and AW.

[houstontxbrave]

He got voted to those things based in hype. Every year was supposed to be the year he broke out. Anyone who watched last season could see SM should have been All-MVC over OE and each of the last two years OE hasn't even been the best player on his own team. Voting isn't everything, he was a solid player, but I agree with Tornado that his career, was equal, if not less than that of SM and AW.

Lets get this straight. Your telling me the voting done at the end of a season is done on hype? So regardless of what was done on the court OE got his recognition at the end of a season only based on hype?

So some voter in Omaha is looking at OE and saying in March you know Im voting OE to the all defensive team because you know I see so much potential in him. I know I saw his entire valley season but that doesnt matter its what he could be that Im voting on.

Look I dont buy the whole he was overrated, hype stuff with this player. I go back to the orginal post by me, if he had a BU uniform on his back and got the post season recognition and put up the numbers he did in a BU uniform no one on here would be tearing his career down.

No one would be saying he shot to much or his numbers went down as a senior or that he only got his awards because he was hyped up. In fact I have a feeling the numbers would be spun in a direction to make him look incredible.

The man had an outstanding college career...period.

[Braves4Life]

Look I dont buy the whole he was overrated, hype stuff with this player...... The man had an outstanding college career...period.

Outstanding may be a bit of a stretch houston. I agree that O is one heck of a talent. In fact, probably more talented than anyone else in the whole MVC (and that includes BU). But, though I think he had a good (maybe even very good) career, he will go down in my book as a player that never achieved his full potential (both on an individual and team basis). With his talent (and it was very obvious at times that he was the best player in the Valley) he should have walked away with every postseason MVC award and could have even been as good as a 3rd Team All-American.