Rayvonte Rice is #1 draft pick

[mtxe79]

Rayvonte's stats are readily available and they do not argue for him being a great outside shooter...and maybe not even that good of a shooter overall..he scores his points because of the VOLUME of shots he takes!

Rayvonte Rice was 67-183 (36.6%) from 3-pt in the regular season as a senior, .....then he went 2-14 (28.6%) from 3-pt in the two games at March Madness, Champiagn Centennial losing both games (49-42 to CC Hills & 73-59 to Marshall) to end up taking the 4th place trophy and 31-3.

As a junior, Rayvonte shot 31-92 (33.7%) from 3-pt in the regular season...
Then in the two games at Carver Arena during March Madness his numbers were less impressive..3-10 (30%) from 3-pt..although he does get to the hoop and score on a lot inside against high school opponents, so his overall shooting pct is above 50% (but he sure won't get as many of those inside shots in college)

..so it the stats over a pretty broad period can be used...his entire junior and senior seasons in high school, then he is a 34% shooter from 3-pt range which is not particularly good for a high schooler given that they shoot from closer in than NCAA and seriously, Rayvonte should be able to get good shots because of his size and the relative smaller size of most of the guys who defended him for those two years..... not exactly a scorching shooting percentage for a guy playing against kids who'll never play in college and being bigger than most of them.

36.6% isn't Matt Roth like numbers but still not to bad. He did make 152-155 free throws which indicates to me at least that he has a pretty good touch I couldn't find any stats for Walter Lemon. I have heard he has a pretty good 3 pt. shot. Does anyone know his percentages?

[midstateknowitall]

I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...

[Nacho]

I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...

Don't you get it... he is not going to bradley so he is going to have a tough time getting his shot off and be a 3 stuck in a 2's body... DUH

[it's boogie time]

I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans"

Please don't lump all Bradley fans together.

Loren Tate thought Illinois should have been recruiting Rayvonte harder.

http://www.illinihq.com/news/mens_basketball/2010/02/02/tate_rice_would_look_good_in_orange_and_blue/

[BuB]

I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...

Like I said, this guy is an offensive stud. Offensively he could help us. I really like his shot and strength. His mechanics are real good and he has a soft touch. It will not matter that the 3 point line is further back in college. He is strong enough to handle that.... All I'm saying is that he has problems with the other half of the game. He battles those demons in his head that control his emotions and his effort on defense. No way he gets away with that attitude at Drake. The coaching staff and refs will not put up with it. If he ever learns or is taught how to play hard without the ball, watch out Valley.

This kid is not related to Simeon Rice, correct?

[tornado]

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)......

so you are comparing the shooting pct. of the BU guys when shooting from the college 3-pt line against college defenders...to RR'S pct. shooting against high school defenders from the high school distance??
...and i cited the exact numbers - it's 34% not 35 or 35.7

Like I said, this guy is an offensive stud.

This kid is not related to Simeon Rice, correct?

he is not related to Simeon Rice nor to Glen Rice..
and as noted, they said the same about Nate Minnoy..he was gonna be a stud and a scoring machine in the Big Ten...and turned out he wasn't even close to a stud at the very LOW mid-major level....

I liked Rice but facts are facts, there are clear reasons why most schools bigger than Drake did not pursue him. Marcus Jordan was also going to be a stud...Tim Flowers, etc..
to go back THREE DECADES and pull Hersey's name out is a pretty clear indication of how hard it is to find another similar, underrated guy having that kind of impact

[Nacho]

I liked Rice but facts are facts, there are clear reasons why most schools bigger than Drake did not pursue him. Marcus Jordan was also going to be a stud...Tim Flowers, etc..
to go back THREE DECADES and pull Hersey's name out is a pretty clear indication of how hard it is to find another similar, underrated guy having that kind of impact

He had 17 offers... 8-10 of which (by my count) are schools "bigger" then Drake...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Rayvonte-Rice-96571

[tornado]

we will obviously differ on that ....if indeed those were all solid offers (since Dave Telep does not acknowledge most of those offers), still there are only two that are "BCS" type or major conference schools offering (BC & DePaul)....neither of which I would consider any significantly better than Drake...and both of those two are gonna be solid at the bottom of their conferences for some time to come...desperate for any talent and so it surprises little that a smart kid would choose an MVC school instead..

if that list is correct, then why didn't he pick ISU - surely you consider ISU better than Drake, right??

[Nacho]

if that list is correct, then why didn't he pick ISU - surely you consider ISU better than Drake, right??

No one knows why a recruit picks one school over another. Why would Jay Harris choose Valpo over SIU or ISU? Why did John Wilkins select ISU over Iowa State? Why did Threloff select ISU over BU/Drake/WMU? The list goes on and on...

[Future Walk-On]

Please don't lump all Bradley fans together.

Loren Tate thought Illinois should have been recruiting Rayvonte harder.
http://www.illinihq.com/news/mens_ba...ange_and_blue/

As of now....the players illinois is recruiting are a tier above rice....unless he thinks all the ratings and judgments of rice are an understatement...

but yeah i read the article now lol.

[tornado]

BTW -- I'll use this situation to cite why we should never, never use the ESPN rankings again......

Here's ESPN ranking Rayvonte Rice as the LOWEST rated recruit coming into Drake

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=2181&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d2181

but even worse...they have Rayvonte as one of the lowest rated recruits int eh entire conference......
only a couple of really obscure kids plus Walter Lemon - who they probably never hard of - are rated lower among the recruits in the entire Valley!

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/conference?confId=18&season=2010&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fconference%3fconfId%3d18%26season%3d2010

[Braves4Life]

Actually tornado, an 85 is a pretty darn strong rating. It's just that Drake obviously has two other studs that are rated even higher. Wow! Thats one helluva recruiting class they've got coming in!

[tornado]

it is had to find a recruit anywhere even at the mid-majors that has a rating much under 85
even the Horizon is loaded with kids rated in the 80's and higher...there's even a dozen or so similarly rated (81 or higher) in the Summit,
and even a few in the SWAC!!

[DUBulldog]

Here's an article on Rayvonte Rice from the Des Moines Register. I can't ever remember the Des Moines media having a story on an incoming Drake player before the fall semester has begun.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100617/SPORTS020403/6180346/Keeler-The-legend-of-Drake-freshman-Rayvonte-Rice-is-growing

After watching him play on Wednesday night, I can tell you that he certainly passes the "eye test". He doesn't look like your typical 17 year-old freshman-to-be.

[tornado]

hmmm...so Rayvonte already has a "Legend"...?


and I am reluctant to believe anything from those Iowa summer leagues where everyone hits for 20/10...
I have many times seen the kids in those Iowa summer leagues put up 30 pts and shoot 10-15 from 3-pt range...
I even have seen comments about this phenomenon of little known players averaging well over 20 ppg there..

http://primetimeleague.com/6-15ptlstats.htm

Even completely no-name kids regularly put up astounding numbers!!

Just one more example - this past week over in the PTL..guys who barely even get on the court or play D-I minutes like Matt Morrison (UNI), Tyler Lange, Kyle Schlaak, Dallas Hodges - hit for 20 or so in this league!!
A kid who's never even played a game of college ball, Nathan Buss was 6-12 from 3-pt!! it's 'cause nobody guards anyone in these leagues...

Rayvonte was 8-22 ...