How much money does each D-I program make?

[Da Coach]

I am new on here and actually a loyal SIUE follower and first I want to say you guys are very disrespectful to SIUE. There was once a time that Bradley was struggling to make it into Division I sports so STOP IT (plus it is not like Bradley is on top of the world in basketball either). Second, the expenditures are actually quite accurate for SIUE sports. There start up fees and such were actually paid out earlier in the process (I think around 2007 or so). Their recruiting budget is minisicule but there focus is really around a 200 or so mile radius around campus (i.e. St Louis metro area). They have had some success in Texas but that is from long term relationships by Lennox Forrestor and has not taken considerable resources. They have also not had to pay out any guarentees (or if they did it was very very little). SIUE will eventually overtake Bradley in a few years then you guys will finally stop dissing them. And please don't say that fans have not been dissing them on here because I see it all the time. IT takes time to start a program and I applaud programs willing to schedule them even though as you say "It doesn't help their RPI" So what? One game is not going to hurt anything!

First, where has anyone here ever been "very disrespectful to SIUE"? Please show examples, because I read every post, and I have never seen it.
Second, you rip Bradley fans for being disrespectful (which is a lie), then you come on the Bradley fan board and call them "dingleberrys", and boast that SIUE will "overtake Bradley in a few years". That is ridiculous. SIUE would consider it a huge success if they could ever attain even the level of an Eastern Illinois University, or a WIU. And that could take decades. More likely, they will become another Chicago State. They will never attain the level of a long-established, successful D1 program like Bradley, at least not in your lifetime.
And in case you don't remember, Bradley was one of the few D1 programs who were willing to play SIUE.

Before you get your undies in a knot over some perceived diss by Bradley fans on a Bradley fan board, wait until you actually beat a team of significance, or get your RPI under 300+.
No wonder your own coach doesn't show you respect!

[mtxe79]

No I have never seen any disrespect of siue here.

[Future Walk-On]

I am not a veteran poster like some but I'll just say I have never seen Anti-SIUE talk ever.

Saying that playing them would hurt our noncon SOS because they are 320+ in the RPI isn't bashing it is being realistic.

There are few schools that receive actual criticism (i.e. ISU, Kentucky) and that is limited. We welcome fans from many schools and rarely have problems.

[PTTB]

PTTB - I am certainly not vouching for the info - and can't really say where they got their data and what years it represents...

but I do have doubt about the accuracy - for several reasons...(and note the comment in the article's 3rd paragraph about how schools do their accounting and budgeting differently)

--first, many schools are not likely to give you that data, especially private schools..so I have to believe much of it is estimated or guessed

--then there's the fact that we know schools do things differently and their accounting techniques are vastly different - with some placing the coach's salary fully on the athletic budget, but as we have seen in other articles, some schools pay their coaches out of funds that are partly privately obtained - and I think UNI is one of those schools, right?

--and check out Duke -- there's no way they can have a budget and costs that are so far out of proportion to all the other similar schools...
their expenses of almost $14 million are not only the highest for any ACC school - they are the highest for all schools by MILLIONS!!
Surely this is a degree of "creative accounting" and shifting expenses to different columns for some purpose - likely taxes...

--Last - a school like SIUE is a recent "start-up" D-I program...and surely the expenses must be significant..yet they report a total expense tabulation of just $694K -- one of the smallest in D-I and only 5% of Duke's...so again I hvave to think someone's doing the numbers crunching for a purpose.

Good stuff tornado. Thanks for the info. I agree, fuzzy accounting definitely comes into play with athletic budgets (well, maybe not truly fuzzy, but rather non-standard for all programs). I'm not sure on the SIU-E hate, so I'll side step that topic with a comment on SIU-E's budget. I don't see any way their actual budget is that low. Their conference was so spread out in geography that travel expenses alone would be crazy...and that's just conference games. Games to North Dakota, South Dakota, Seattle, and they played in a tourney in South Carolina. Just alot of travel for such a small amount of money (not including scholy $$$ and coaching salaries).

Anyway, just some things I thought about too regarding discrepancy in reporting financial $$$'s.

[Future Walk-On]

Good stuff tornado. Thanks for the info. I agree, fuzzy accounting definitely comes into play with athletic budgets (well, maybe not truly fuzzy, but rather non-standard for all programs). I'm not sure on the SIU-E hate, so I'll side step that topic with a comment on SIU-E's budget. I don't see any way their actual budget is that low. Their conference was so spread out in geography that travel expenses alone would be crazy...and that's just conference games. Games to North Dakota, South Dakota, Seattle, and they played in a tourney in South Carolina. Just alot of travel for such a small amount of money (not including scholy $$$ and coaching salaries).

Anyway, just some things I thought about too regarding discrepancy in reporting financial $$$'s.

During a layover in Atlanta I sat by the SIUE team. I looked up that they had just played Kennesaw State. They go all over.