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  • #76
    Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
    I think this is a great way to creat a buzz/interest whatever to sell those licenses. This building was built to be used, not to sit ideally. It was also built to generate (hopefully) revenue from Womans Basketball and maybe gain some interest in Womans Volleyball.

    What is the best way to sell those licenses? Put something that 11k are willing to go and watch in Peoria... Mens Basketball.

    Lets be honest even if BU played a Mens game in the new arena and everyone was upset... how many actually would just flat out stop going to the other home games that season and how many would actually not renew or want season tickets? Maybe a few, maybe alot but enough to make a difference, doubtful.

    Those who can afford the licenses will continue to give the money to the University, those who can afford the season tickets without giving huge amounts will continue to buy the season tickets, and if they dont someone else will.

    And BU if they win games will continue to fill Carver arena with 10K plus even if they play one single game on campus.

    The school needs to move those licenses and I bet those who promise to buy those license are very interested in a men game. Sorry but money is going to win out over everything else.

    And I am willing to bet and I believe BU is too that even if they move a game to campus and you cant attend you still will buy the season tickets and you will still follow BU.

    It may not be right but lots of things are not right, but making use of that arena and making revenue is going to trump right everytime.
    I have to disagree that shutting out half the people that want to be there is a good idea. My feelings on this are even stronger when they shut out the people that go to all the regular season games by playing postseason games at the new arena.
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • #77
      Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
      I have to disagree that shutting out half the people that want to be there is a good idea. My feelings on this are even stronger when they shut out the people that go to all the regular season games by playing postseason games at the new arena.
      We won't have to worry about postseason games there....we will be at NCAA sites? right?

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      • #78
        We have no idea how this will be played out but I like the idea that the school has options. Will they use those options or will the PCC people take it serious is the question. I'm sure the administration is quite aware of your concerns and hopefully they will do what is in the best interest of the University and program. Sometimes what is best for you is always best for the program and when tat happens you can only hope that their reasoning makes sense.
        "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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        • #79
          Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
          So is it better to have 11,000 people trying to find parking or the fact that half of the season ticket holders won't be allowed to attend a home game because they can't afford another $1,000 for 1 game?
          I dont think there are 9,000 season ticket holders... the average attendance for BU home games was 9339, and i doubt that 90% of those were season ticket holders. Yes a game at the new arena will make getting a ticket more difficult, but it shouldnt be impossible. A non conference game vs. someone no one has heard of would be perfect for the new arena, and if we are playing in anything less than the NIT next year i would consider it a disappointing season and would not expect too many people to want to go to a post season game of a lower tournament ( though i'd still be going cause thats what loyalty and supporting your school is all about).

          I think if used correctly this could be very good for creating a good atmosphere and be a nice change for BU.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by RedSeaElite1 View Post
            I dont think there are 9,000 season ticket holders... the average attendance for BU home games was 9339, and i doubt that 90% of those were season ticket holders. Yes a game at the new arena will make getting a ticket more difficult, but it shouldnt be impossible. A non conference game vs. someone no one has heard of would be perfect for the new arena, and if we are playing in anything less than the NIT next year i would consider it a disappointing season and would not expect too many people to want to go to a post season game of a lower tournament ( though i'd still be going cause thats what loyalty and supporting your school is all about).

            I think if used correctly this could be very good for creating a good atmosphere and be a nice change for BU.
            I think he was roughly estimating it. There would be accommodations for students, faculty, guests of players and coaches (a surprising number), etc. so at most there would be 3000 or so tickets for season holders and it would not surprise anyone if BU had 5-6000 season ticket holders. I also think you're grossly underestimated the popularity of BU Basketball if you don't think too many people would want to go to a post season tourney besides the NIT, especially because you can't just look at next season. There were CBI games with 8000 people, and thats not inflated due to season ticket holders. Half those people would be shut out if it were at the new arena.

            I haven't thrown out my opinion on the PSO plan but the more I think about it the harder I am struggling to find the sound logic in holding regular/postseason games there, but it wouldn't be the first time I've disagreed with something this administration has done regarding athletics (see FGCU). Let's hope they keep it to exhibition games...

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            • #81
              The Bradley University Athletics department needs to move 1000 seat licenses at a $1000 a piece and the other 500 at $500 a piece.

              It will be close to impossible to move those 1500 seats simply by trying to sell the ability to have the best seats for Womans Basketball and/or Womans Softball or a Mens exhibition game.

              The University needs a marquee event to help move those licenses. The only marquee event that the University controls is Mens Basketball.

              If I were being asked to give a grand for the rights to some seat to watch those two Womans teams play, I would be asking the University to give me more, and what else can they give that person other then a Mens Basketball game?

              As I said earlier it is not right to shut out season ticket holders who do not have a grand to throw at seats in the new arena but without the "carrot" of a mens game they will have an incredibly difficult time moving those licenses.

              What else really can Bradley do to move those licenses at those asking prices?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                The Bradley University Athletics department needs to move 1000 seat licenses at a $1000 a piece and the other 500 at $500 a piece.

                It will be close to impossible to move those 1500 seats simply by trying to sell the ability to have the best seats for Womans Basketball and/or Womans Softball or a Mens exhibition game.

                The University needs a marquee event to help move those licenses. The only marquee event that the University controls is Mens Basketball.

                If I were being asked to give a grand for the rights to some seat to watch those two Womans teams play, I would be asking the University to give me more, and what else can they give that person other then a Mens Basketball game?

                As I said earlier it is not right to shut out season ticket holders who do not have a grand to throw at seats in the new arena but without the "carrot" of a mens game they will have an incredibly difficult time moving those licenses.

                What else really can Bradley do to move those licenses at those asking prices?
                Not sell them? Working for a few years as an intern in the fundraising dept. at BU, alienating recurring donors is not a good plan... Even if in the short term it's beneficial.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                  Not sell them? Working for a few years as an intern in the fundraising dept. at BU, alienating recurring donors is not a good plan... Even if in the short term it's beneficial.
                  Just curious but arent the, for the most part, the recurring donors the same ones who will buy the licenses, atleast for the most part? Or should I state the recurring donors with the deepest pockets are who will buy these licenses?

                  I just dont see how playing one game in the new arena as a way of alienating the biggest most deep pocketed donors... and those are the for right or wrong in fundraising the most important, or am I wrong about that?

                  Playing one game yes will alienate some, but you can alienate people for all kinds of reason, I just do not think that the alienation will be significate enough to force a stop to playing a game in the new arena.

                  As for not selling licenses, its a revenue stream and unless they can not move enough I doubt not selling those seats with licenses will not happen.

                  How about this, what if Bradley said ok we are not going to play up at the new arena but we are going to require a licensing fee for all seats, a maintence fee and a price for purchasing a season ticket?

                  A one time license fee to have the seat, a maintence fee to keep the seat and a price for buying the ticket all for not playing one game in the new arena.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                    Just curious but arent the, for the most part, the recurring donors the same ones who will buy the licenses, atleast for the most part? Or should I state the recurring donors with the deepest pockets are who will buy these licenses?

                    I just dont see how playing one game in the new arena as a way of alienating the biggest most deep pocketed donors... and those are the for right or wrong in fundraising the most important, or am I wrong about that?

                    Playing one game yes will alienate some, but you can alienate people for all kinds of reason, I just do not think that the alienation will be significate enough to force a stop to playing a game in the new arena.

                    As for not selling licenses, its a revenue stream and unless they can not move enough I doubt not selling those seats with licenses will not happen.

                    How about this, what if Bradley said ok we are not going to play up at the new arena but we are going to require a licensing fee for all seats, a maintence fee and a price for purchasing a season ticket?

                    A one time license fee to have the seat, a maintence fee to keep the seat and a price for buying the ticket all for not playing one game in the new arena.
                    The big time donors aren't going to quit giving. Your mid range donors are some of the most important and most fickle, and season ticket holders aren't going to take kindly to paying 1k for the chance at 1 game...

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                    • #85
                      Th new arena will be a nice practice facility for the men. A great place for the women to have their games and hopefully draw more fans than before. Same for the vollyball team. It will be a place these 2 teams can be proud of and a showcase to the opposition. The men play in a tremendous arena dowtown that seats almost 3 times more than the new arena. IMO, keep the men downtown where they belong for all regular season and post season games.
                      What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                      • #86
                        I've never seen so many people that care about the greater good soooooo much. I mean really...you guys are seriously worrying this one out for 3-4k folks that you don't know.

                        You're all saints in my book.

                        I'm going to have a ticket to a game played at the new place...and I won't pay $1k or even $500 for it...but I will be first in line to get one when they go on sale.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by LG281 View Post
                          I've never seen so many people that care about the greater good soooooo much. I mean really...you guys are seriously worrying this one out for 3-4k folks that you don't know.

                          You're all saints in my book.

                          I'm going to have a ticket to a game played at the new place...and I won't pay $1k or even $500 for it...but I will be first in line to get one when they go on sale.
                          Good for you. Let's just hope it's for a women's game, a volleyball game or men's exhibition game.

                          St. Chico
                          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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