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  • #16
    I'm not gonna take swipes, and this isn't meant to be a rip on anyone, but for the times that I've been at Markin and watched some of the workouts and pickup games, I haven't necessarily been impressed by JP. He seems to be an incredibly hard worker, but also seems to lack a lot of tools that it takes to be a dominant big man. I would feel more comfortable with him playing the 4, and if we see significant minutes out of him this year, that will be a surprise to me at least. I can see him coming along in his junior and senior years, but right now I think its too early to count him as a significant factor for next years team. Again, this is just opinion based on observation.
    This is just the tip of the iceberg...

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    • #17
      we don't have to have a dominant big man...just a solid big man would do
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      • #18
        Originally posted by it's boogie time View Post
        That lineup would solve the rebounding problem and make a good bench, but I think it would be too slow. I don't think TB could cover a fast wing man and most teams play three guards.
        That is what I have been saying, TB is a tremendous player, but I don't get the obsession with putting him at the 3. He has never played at the 3. Maybe in the future, but right now at least I don't feel he is good enough as a defender, ball-handler, or 3 point shooter to play the 3 when most teams play 3 guards or at least a SF with a perimeter skill set. Also I feel DD has to be out there to be our number 1 defender as I stated in the Dodie thread. I feel JP can be a strong back up 4 along with WE playing there sometimes too when we need to go big with 2 posts.

        I put this lineup in the DD thread, it gives us time with 2 posts when we need to go big, if gives us length with 6'5 AW and 6'8 MK at the 3 spot without sacrificing a perimeter threat at the 3. AW is a good rebounder too. It gives us a number 1 defender in DD, gets the backups a good chunk of playing time, and makes us a dangerous 3 point shooter/fast breaking yet still strong defensive team. Without the final scholarship filled:

        SM(25)/DSE(15)
        DD(25)/JE(10)/DSE(5)
        AW(25)/MK(8 )/WL(7)
        TB(25)/JP(10)/WE(5)
        WE(15)/MO(20)/AT(5)

        Not that I know much, and I'm sure JL will put together the best lineup, but I like that. I think people want TB at the 3 because of rebounding, but I think AW and TB at the 3/4 are good rebounders. The problem was the 5 spot rebounding which being the biggest rebounding position made our whole team look bad at rebounding. I don't think TB at the 4 was the problem rebounding, you fix the 5 spot with an improved WE/MO/AT, I think you fix the whole problem.

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        • #19
          man you guys keep doing what your doing .which is a whole lot speculation. bunch of arm chair coaches.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mwilsont View Post
            man you guys keep doing what your doing .which is a whole lot speculation. bunch of arm chair coaches.
            Thanks for that great insight and contribution. How dare people have fun during the offseason and "speculate" about their team for the upcoming year. Why don't we just shut down the website for the 8 months we don't play?
            "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
              That is what I have been saying, TB is a tremendous player, but I don't get the obsession with putting him at the 3. He has never played at the 3. Maybe in the future, but right now at least I don't feel he is good enough as a defender, ball-handler, or 3 point shooter to play the 3 when most teams play 3 guards or at least a SF with a perimeter skill set. Also I feel DD has to be out there to be our number 1 defender as I stated in the Dodie thread. I feel JP can be a strong back up 4 along with WE playing there sometimes too when we need to go big with 2 posts.

              I put this lineup in the DD thread, it gives us time with 2 posts when we need to go big, if gives us length with 6'5 AW and 6'8 MK at the 3 spot without sacrificing a perimeter threat at the 3. AW is a good rebounder too. It gives us a number 1 defender in DD, gets the backups a good chunk of playing time, and makes us a dangerous 3 point shooter/fast breaking yet still strong defensive team. Without the final scholarship filled:

              SM(25)/DSE(15)
              DD(25)/JE(10)/DSE(5)
              AW(25)/MK(8 )/WL(7)
              TB(25)/JP(10)/WE(5)
              WE(15)/MO(20)/AT(5)

              Not that I know much, and I'm sure JL will put together the best lineup, but I like that. I think people want TB at the 3 because of rebounding, but I think AW and TB at the 3/4 are good rebounders. The problem was the 5 spot rebounding which being the biggest rebounding position made our whole team look bad at rebounding. I don't think TB at the 4 was the problem rebounding, you fix the 5 spot with an improved WE/MO/AT, I think you fix the whole problem.
              That would be an ideal minute distribution IMO. Only I think we need closer to 30 minutes from TB and I wouldn't make any bets on AT contributing strictly based on his previous two seasons. That said I think we see more of WE/MO splitting the 5 and TB getting 30 min. at the 4. Hopefully JP can impress and put in about 10 minutes a game.
              "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DeltaBrave03 View Post
                Thanks for that great insight and contribution. How dare people have fun during the offseason and "speculate" about their team for the upcoming year. Why don't we just shut down the website for the 8 months we don't play?
                Exactly, how dare anyone have some fun discussing their team. I mean it is so much more fun discussing our boring engineering, finance, etc. jobs!

                I don't break-down and analyze the team like some posters but I do enjoy reading through everyone's thoughts and I never get put-off or frustrated with anyone's posts. Let's keep the perspective that this is for fun!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mwilsont View Post
                  man you guys keep doing what your doing .which is a whole lot speculation. bunch of arm chair coaches.
                  Let me make myself clear, I'm no expert. I think I'm a pretty good observer of college basketball like we all think we are, but beyond that I have no qualifications as a basketball expert.

                  As I said in my post, JL knows far better than me and he will do what is best I'm sure.

                  As I have said many times before I love to speculate on and discuss Bradley basketball especially in the offseason for fun. Without harming or bashing anyone, I don't see what's wrong with that. It's all in fun and I think part of why this board is here.

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                  • #24
                    No posting about anything until the season starts, about anything......it could get boring around here for a while..............

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mwilsont View Post
                      man you guys keep doing what your doing .which is a whole lot speculation. bunch of arm chair coaches.
                      Who is this person? All I can say is, "Yea we are!" Master of the obvious.
                      "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                      ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                      • #26
                        I don't know how others feel about themselves, but I consider myself to be a first rate arm chair coach and recruiter!

                        Why should sports writers/broadcasters have all the fun for themselves?

                        Isn't speculation one of the major attractions of an Internet Forum?

                        If all I really want are facts I can always go elsewhere!
                        BUilding for the Future

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                          I don't know how others feel about themselves, but I consider myself to be a first rate arm chair coach and recruiter!

                          Why should sports writers/broadcasters have all the fun for themselves?

                          Isn't speculation one of the major attractions of an Internet Forum?

                          If all I really want are facts I can always go elsewhere!
                          I'm still an associate sofa coach, but I have big goals for myself.
                          "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SFP View Post
                            Who is this person? All I can say is, "Yea we are!" Master of the obvious.

                            I agree haha I'm just way way too excited about next season to just sit and wait.

                            I like the above minute breakdowns, and i agree i think our starting five will probably be

                            DD
                            SM
                            AW
                            TB
                            WE

                            hopefully we can get some solid support from DSE, JE, MO, and JP. I would love to see JE really step up like he was at the end of the season because with DD,SM, and AW graduating we are going to need someone to step in the year after.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                              If all I really want are facts I can always go elsewhere!
                              Yea - you'll find it all from the local rag and their Top Man in KW.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RedSeaElite1 View Post
                                I agree haha I'm just way way too excited about next season to just sit and wait.

                                I like the above minute breakdowns, and i agree i think our starting five will probably be

                                DD
                                SM
                                AW
                                TB
                                WE

                                hopefully we can get some solid support from DSE, JE, MO, and JP. I would love to see JE really step up like he was at the end of the season because with DD,SM, and AW graduating we are going to need someone to step in the year after.
                                If this is our starting lineup we will not be winning any championships as it is too small and we would get killed again on the boards.

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