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  • #16
    This team is one player away from being getting over the hump. A solid big buy gets us to the next level of finishing top 2 in conference. A solid big guy and JW would provide Butler-esque results.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      I don't think the question is whether we would have wanted a better, higher scoring player than David Collins....
      I can guess every fan of every team would want better players, right??

      the question is whether we would have been better off had we simply decided NOT to sign him at all and just keep the scholarship open..

      After all...he committed and signed in April, and BU really had NO OTHER big man prospects, so obviously we weren't going to do any better...
      BUT-- where would we have been if we simply held and open scholarship and didn't have Collins?
      I think we'd have been much worse in 2007-2008 & 2008-2009.....right??
      How does David Collins get into this discussion??? I believe this thread was about what would make you happy right now not what who has been disappointing. Yes, a real big would make a lot of us real happy plain and simple. If another DC signed we would not know that the desire was lacking until November at best, anyway.
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      • #18
        Since we're a little off topic. What's up with the SEC and Goldman Sachs today. I always thought Goldman Sachs runs the government So why would the SEC announce what they did today on options expiration day when there's a lot of money in play, maybe Goldman Sachs does run the government

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BU RICK View Post
          Since we're a little off topic. What's up with the SEC and Goldman Sachs today. I always thought Goldman Sachs runs the government So why would the SEC announce what they did today on options expiration day when there's a lot of money in play, maybe Goldman Sachs does run the government
          It will be like the NCAA's investigation of USC's football team. A lot of hot air to appease the public around tax time, nothing more nothing less. The Federal Reserve ran by those same private banks will put a few road blocks to derail the whole process.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by SFP View Post
            How does David Collins get into this discussion??? I believe this thread was about what would make you happy right now not what who has been disappointing. Yes, a real big would make a lot of us real happy plain and simple. If another DC signed we would not know that the desire was lacking until November at best, anyway.
            Tornado didn't bring it up, direct your comments and ire towards Houston.


            Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
            Not just big project or a tweener. I tough physical presence who can play basketball. I emphasis CAN PLAY BASKETBALL... Not David Collins.

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            • #21
              I voted for JW, a Big & WL; because it was the only choice that included JW. I don't think that we can get a better big better than JW who can be an impact player. JL doesn't like to play Bigs anyway so the Big that we get better be very good. We have bigs sitting on the bench. I think that's why it's hard to get a big to come to BU. I still can't believe that as poor as our inside game bigs were that JP as an all stater wasn't good enough to contribute. JMHO!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                Tornado didn't bring it up, direct your comments and ire towards Houston.
                Hey Amp, Houston brought up DC in the context of what he wants out of a real big and nothing more. T then spinned it to something else.

                BTW....I want a Mike Williams kinda of big!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
                  I voted for JW, a Big & WL; because it was the only choice that included JW. I don't think that we can get a better big better than JW who can be an impact player. JL doesn't like to play Bigs anyway so the Big that we get better be very good. We have bigs sitting on the bench. I think that's why it's hard to get a big to come to BU. I still can't believe that as poor as our inside game bigs were that JP as an all stater wasn't good enough to contribute. JMHO!
                  Which big sitting on the bench would you have played? Curious minds want to know. My complaint is that he does not give them much of a leach out there but then again he sees them everyday at practice and may know a thing or two more then us.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    my point was -- had we not signed him, then at that late stage we'd have gotten nobody better, and then who would have filled in for Matt Salley when Matt was in foul trouble?
                    I simply want a player who is a basketball player. A guy who when he is on the court goes to work, wants to win, plays hard and has already come to Bradley with skill.

                    Honestly if anyone knew that Collins would be what he looked like yet played like he had never put a basketball shoe on, I think most would have said lets just pass on him. Yes he cleaned up Salley, but dang it atleast Salley played hard, not always smart, but hard and he gave a **** and he did have a little skill.

                    I would have loved to have had Salley available this year and let him play off of Egolf and Brown. He didnt have the height but he had the desire and atleast some basketball skill.

                    I suppose he is who you get late in the game but Wilson and Brown came late in the game also.

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                    • #25
                      I also want to bring up one other thing missing here. Jordan Prosser. What happens if he has taken his redshirt year adjusted and can have an immediate impact?

                      Does his work, skill and ability make it less of an absolute need to bring in a 5? I think a true 5 is manditory. But sometimes my thinking forgets about Prosser, maybe his size will make a true difference and help especially Egolf when it comes to controling the paint.

                      I guess what I am saying that maybe all is not completely lost if Les cant get that true 6'8+. The 6'8+ would make life a lot easier though.

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                      • #26
                        Prosser, Will....can play both positions 4 and 5...if there would be a distiction between them...
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                        • #27
                          I just want a guy like 6'8" 265 lbs

                          I want someone to sign soon...I don't like waiting

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
                            I just want a guy like 6'8" 265 lbs

                            I want someone to sign soon...I don't like waiting
                            What about 6'8" 240?

                            Sounds good to me.
                            ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                              What about 6'8" 240?

                              Sounds good to me.
                              Yeah that too...I just thought people grew a bit sometimes maybe according to something i read that is newer than what this other thing i read was just saying shh

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                              • #30
                                Which big sitting on the bench would you have played? Curious minds want to know. My complaint is that he does not give them much of a leach out there but then again he sees them everyday at practice and may know a thing or two more then us.


                                I never saw AT enough to know why he didn't play; other than he looked lost. But he could have rebounded by just being tall. WE never got a rebound and he never shot from outside which was supposed to be his expertise. I would have liked to have seen MK. When he started to look good, he never played again. True I don't see the guys in practice; but "we talkin' 'bout practice". If it was because they didn't play defense, none of the inside guys played defense.

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