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  • #31
    fansince55 MK and AT were in no way going to improve our D! I genuinely like MK but go back and look at some tapes even the Iowa State game and tell me he can play D. AT granted has the potential but he could not string more then 2 minutes of consistent play. I was one voicing for JL to go big but once I took a look at the old games I knew why.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
      Which big sitting on the bench would you have played? Curious minds want to know. My complaint is that he does not give them much of a leach out there but then again he sees them everyday at practice and may know a thing or two more then us.


      I never saw AT enough to know why he didn't play; other than he looked lost. But he could have rebounded by just being tall. WE never got a rebound and he never shot from outside which was supposed to be his expertise. I would have liked to have seen MK. When he started to look good, he never played again. True I don't see the guys in practice; but "we talkin' 'bout practice". If it was because they didn't play defense, none of the inside guys played defense.
      I have seen all but the freshman from last year practice numerous times.

      I would still rather see AT than SS. although all our bigs miss bunny after bunny after bunny.

      defense is ok against our other "bigs" lol

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      • #33
        Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
        Which big sitting on the bench would you have played? Curious minds want to know. My complaint is that he does not give them much of a leach out there but then again he sees them everyday at practice and may know a thing or two more then us.


        I never saw AT enough to know why he didn't play; other than he looked lost. But he could have rebounded by just being tall. WE never got a rebound and he never shot from outside which was supposed to be his expertise. I would have liked to have seen MK. When he started to look good, he never played again. True I don't see the guys in practice; but "we talkin' 'bout practice". If it was because they didn't play defense, none of the inside guys played defense.

        Will may not have been the most aggressive rebounder, but this statement is far from accurate.
        Will averaged 4.4 rebounds per game, despite playing only 22.5 minutes per game, 7 minutes less than any other starter. Also, he was coming off a serious knee injury, which affects jumping and the ability to push for position. In rebounds per minute played, Will was a close 2nd among the regulars to Taylor Brown.

        And though Will wasn't a perimeter threat, since Bradley had enough others who were, he didn't take many outside shots.
        However, let's not suggest he wasn't a good shooter. Will's Field Goal percentage was .525, by far the best among the regulars, and 5th best in the MVC. Also, Milos is not a 4 or 5, and would not have gotten more playing time even if Will wasn't playing as much.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SFP View Post
          I was one voicing for JL to go big but once I took a look at the old games I knew why.
          Right on SFP. I'd been saying that since day 1. Les had no choice but to play the players and the way he did.

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          • #35
            I wasn't knocking WE. I think he is a good shooter; but JL never let him shoot 3s. He wanted him to rebound and WE is a 3 trying to play 4 or 5. It's also hard for a team to rebound when you have 3 or 4 guards playing at a time; a 3 (WE) playing a 5; and a 3 (TB) playing a 4. We have no "real" 4s or 5s on the team. AT is a tall 3 that can't handle the ball and MK is a questionable 4. That's why I think we need JW, and a REAL Big. JW could be a 4 if he wanted to be; but we need a 5 or a REAL 4 to go with JW or possibly JP.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
              I wasn't knocking WE. I think he is a good shooter; but JL never let him shoot 3s. He wanted him to rebound and WE is a 3 trying to play 4 or 5. It's also hard for a team to rebound when you have 3 or 4 guards playing at a time; a 3 (WE) playing a 5; and a 3 (TB) playing a 4. We have no "real" 4s or 5s on the team. AT is a tall 3 that can't handle the ball and MK is a questionable 4. That's why I think we need JW, and a REAL Big. JW could be a 4 if he wanted to be; but we need a 5 or a REAL 4 to go with JW or possibly JP.
              Will is not a 3 he is a 4...as is Jordan...TB is a 3...JW would be a 3 although he could play the 4..

              Not hard to rebound with guards...just gotta BOX OUT
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              • #37
                I'm also going to add a bit more to why our rebounding was not good. WE had to guard a bigger guy then him and so we continuously had to bring someone over to double up and this allowed teams more times then not to come in from the weak side and pick up an easy offensive rebound. If we defended the weak side then this again left someone open to hit a 3. A guy that can hold their own against an opposing big will make a huge difference in our defensive rebounding numbers. It's hard to box someone out when they already have position on you.
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                • #38
                  • 6'8" - 6'9"
                  • Long arms
                  • Has to run, jump a little too
                  • Don't want him to be too heavy or he will be a statue
                  • Doesn't need to shoot, just defend, rebound, and get put backs
                  • Could be from Europe or perhaps China

                  The pros recruit China, why not colleges?
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                  • #39
                    AT is not a tall 3

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                      Will is not a 3 he is a 4...as is Jordan...TB is a 3...JW would be a 3 although he could play the 4..

                      Not hard to rebound with guards...just gotta BOX OUT
                      The 4 position is a power position. Bradley has no power players other than possibly JP. I would say that MK and WE are similar players; but neither one is a true 4 just because they can't play the 3 position. That's one of the problems with Bradley's bigs. JL recruits bigs that can't handle the ball or play D well enough to play the 3; and don't rebound aggressively and aren't physical enough to play the 4. That's why they get in foul trouble and sit most of the time.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by fansince55 View Post
                        The 4 position is a power position. Bradley has no power players other than possibly JP. I would say that MK and WE are similar players; but neither one is a true 4 just because they can't play the 3 position. That's one of the problems with Bradley's bigs. JL recruits bigs that can't handle the ball or play D well enough to play the 3; and don't rebound aggressively and aren't physical enough to play the 4. That's why they get in foul trouble and sit most of the time.

                        Sorry to disagree...but both WE and JP are 4's and pretty good ones at that....I am looking forward to seeing JP play a little 5 with WE at the 4....and TB at the three and AW the 2 and SM at the 1....but that is just me...


                        Would love to see JW at BU and add a pretty good big recruit that can play right away....I am up for that...
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