NCAA APR report- 1 MVC program to be penalized

[Da Coach]

The annual NCAA APR (Academic Prograss Rate) report is due out today.
Missouri State has already learned that 2 of their athletic programs will be penalized- Men's basketball, and football. Both programs will lose scholarships- 1 for basketball and 2.83 for football.

http://www.missouristatebears.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13800&ATCLID=204923865

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100407/BLOGS07/100407012/Two-MSU-athletic-programs-to-lose-scholarships

[SaintLouBrave22]

The annual NCAA APR (Academic Prograss Rate) report is due out today.
Missouri State has already learned that 2 of their athletic programs will be penalized- Men's basketball, and football. Both programs will lose scholarships- 1 for basketball and 2.83 for football.
http://www.missouristatebears.com//V...CLID=204923865

Yet somehow I bet Maryland doesnt get penalized...


Ridiculous IMO!

[TNMSUFAN]

Pretty much knew this was coming for us...3 guys left when Barry was fired and then 4 more after Zo's first year

[tornado]

"All four incoming freshmen in coach Cuonzo Martin's first recruiting class in
2008-09 have since left school. In addition, three scholarship freshmen from
the 2007-08 team, one from 2006-07 and one from 2005-06, coach Barry
Hinson's final three teams, left school during or after one year."

But how does this impact the program? Supposedly if a kid leaves and is eligible and making grades, it doesn't count against the program unless he fails to graduate in a six-year span.

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100407/BLOGS07/100407012/Two-MSU-athletic-programs-to-lose-scholarships

[SaintLouBrave22]

"All four incoming freshmen in coach Cuonzo Martin's first recruiting class in
2008-09 have since left school. In addition, three scholarship freshmen from
the 2007-08 team, one from 2006-07 and one from 2005-06, coach Barry
Hinson's final three teams, left school during or after one year."

But how does this impact the program? Supposedly if a kid leaves and is eligible and making grades, it doesn't count against the program unless he fails to graduate in a six-year span.

http://www.news-leader.com/article/2...e-scholarships

Thats what I was wondering T...


I didn't think it impacted things either...

[TNMSUFAN]

One of the guys on our board did this example

It only factors Zo first year for now,

They calculate it based of the roster per semester by points, i'll just do a few players to keep it simple.

You have 2 possible points per player per semester, one for staying eligible, and one for staying at the school (retention)

So lets say you have the following

3 players, 2 stay the whole year, and stay eligible, they get all 4 points for the year

Player 3 is academically eligable, but decides to transfer at the end of the year, he gets 2 points for the eligibility, one for first sememster retention then misses one for retention for the 2nd semester.

So you would have as follows

Player 1 4/4
Player 2 4/4
Player 3 3/4

Total 11/12=11=.917*100= APR of 917

So this class would look like this assuming people don't transfer
Weems 4/4
Ricks 4/4
Leonard 4/4
Fury 4/4
Jehle 4/4
Mallett 4/4
Pickens 4/4
Jones 4/4
Rhine 4/4
Patterson 4/4
McFarland 0/2
Creekmore 4/4
Porter 4/4

Total 48/50- .96 APR- 960

Last years might have been (not sure if transfers (Leonard and Patterson) count- this is just an example)
Weems 4/4
Fury 4/4
Jehle 4/4
Rhine 4/4
McFarland 4/4
Creekmore 4/4
Knapp- 4/4
Cooks- 4/4
Laurie- 4/4
Hayward-Mayhew- 3/4
Brumfield- 1/4
Hobbs- 0/2
Total- 40/46- .870 APR- 870

Average 88/96- .917 APR- 917 for 2 years averaged

[tornado]

way too complex - can you put in it English?

[it's boogie time]

You have to think that all the defections from SIU during the Lowery era will come back to cost them a scholarship.

[Braves4Life]

How in the world do you lose 2.83 scholarships for football?

[amckillip]

How in the world do you lose 2.83 scholarships for football?

I did a pretty extensive research project on the APR. It is actually a much better program than many give it credit for, if a player counts against you, that player generally should, there are, of course, extreme cases, but those are exceptions. As far as fractional penalties they are common in non-major sports. Many sports you actually have 10.5 or 13.25 scholarships sometimes. Which literally reflects that portion of the total cost of enrollment (tuition, room and board, books, etc.)

[tornado]

Here's more details on Missouri State's academic progress report...

http://www.news-leader.com/assets/jpg/DO155878417.JPG

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100418/OPINIONS01/4180328/Hut++hut++study

Football & Basketball fall below the allowable and lose scholarships.....

[tornado]

More news on the NCAA academic report is still pending, but now Arkansas State is expecting to be docked at least one scholarship for bad academics...

http://www.wreg.com/news/sns-ap-bkc--arkansasst-graduationrates,0,2919752.story