Scottie Pippen to HOF

[tornado]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/04/report_scottie_pippen_elected.html

[BU RICK]

For those that didn't see Scottie Pippen's induction to the HOF there's some good video on this link, about a dozen videos.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/pippen_hof2010.html

[Chico]

For those that didn't see Scottie Pippen's induction to the HOF there's some good video on this link, about a dozen videos.
http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/pippen_hof2010.html

Did they show a replay of him refusing take the floor because he wasn't getting the last shot?

[BU RICK]

Did they show a replay of him refusing take the floor because he wasn't getting the last shot?

I was upset about that for a few weeks but he was just too good a person/player to stay mad at.

He received zero scholarship offers coming out of high school. Enrolled at the University of Central Arkansas as a 6-1 walk-on freshman/team manager and grew 6". It's a great story.

[Chico]

I was upset about that for a few weeks but he was just too good a person/player to stay mad at.

He received zero scholarship offers coming out of high school. Enrolled at the University of Central Arkansas as a 6-1 walk-on freshman/team manager and grew 6". It's a great story.

Don't care about that. A good person/player is also a team player and he proved, IMO anyway, he wasn't. No "i" in the word team.

[amckillip]

Don't care about that. A good person/player is also a team player and he proved, IMO anyway, he wasn't. No "i" in the word team.

The man was the best support player in history, how can you say he wasn't a team player???? One incident doesn't make a man.

[Chico]

The man was the best support player in history, how can you say he wasn't a team player???? One incident doesn't make a man.

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I think MJ and the Bulls could have won without him. It was easy to be a "team player" on any team MJ was on. The one incident proved he wanted to be the "man", but don't remember the Bulls winning after MJ left.

[amckillip]

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I think MJ and the Bulls could have won without him. It was easy to be a "team player" on any team MJ was on. The one incident proved he wanted to be the "man", but don't remember the Bulls winning after MJ left.

Funny that Scottie and Phil were also absent when the Bulls stop winning. Name one player that has one without a great supporting guy. Kobe had Gasol and Shaq, Wade had Shaq, Duncan had Parker, Magic had Kareem, Bird and Parish et. al, the pistons had several great players, speak in hypotheticals all you want, but to say the Scottie wasn't a team player or that removing him and the Bulls would have been anywhere close to what they were is clearly completely overwhelmed by a personal bias.

[houstontxbrave]

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I think MJ and the Bulls could have won without him. It was easy to be a "team player" on any team MJ was on. The one incident proved he wanted to be the "man", but don't remember the Bulls winning after MJ left.

The whole thing with Pippen and not going in was certainly very self centered and embarassing. And Kukoc hitting the shot was even more embarassing for Pippen, but it does not define his entire career or what he gave the Chicago.


There is absolutely no way the Bulls win 6 NBA titles without Pippen on that roster. Jordan was great but he just like James, he could not win alone or with a role player cast of teammates.

The Bulls did not win withouth MJ but Pippen took them to the Eastern conference finals and if they dont get a crap call on a jump shot they likely go to the finals and play the Rockets.

You can say what you want about Pippen and his self centeredness but his play was a huge part of why the Bulls won and got to 6 finals.

[JMM28]

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I think MJ and the Bulls could have won without him. It was easy to be a "team player" on any team MJ was on. The one incident proved he wanted to be the "man", but don't remember the Bulls winning after MJ left.

No way the Bulls beat the Lakers in 91 without Scottie shutting Magic down.

No way the Bulls beat the Riley Knicks without Pippen there.

And there is absolutely no way the Bulls win 72 games without Scottie.

[tornado]

And there is absolutely no way the Bulls win 72 games without Scottie.

and every year some team starts out hot like Orlando, the Celtics, Heat, Lakers...and everyone starts predicting they're gonna finish with more than 72 wins...but it never happens...
Now we hear it's gonna happen again in Miami....sure, I'll believe it when I see it...

[JMM28]

and every year some team starts out hot like Orlando, the Celtics, Heat, Lakers...and everyone starts predicting they're gonna finish with more than 72 wins...but it never happens...
Now we hear it's gonna happen again in Miami....sure, I'll believe it when I see it...

If that Heat team wins more than 72, I will eat a hat.

I don't know if it is because it was recent that people think it is so easily achievable...but losing 10 games all year is **** near impossible. That is one record, along with Ripken and DiMaggio, that I would be astonished to see broken.

Speaking of baseball, that would be like a baseball team going 142-20. Or only losing 10 games halfway through the year.

[Chico]

Funny that Scottie and Phil were also absent when the Bulls stop winning. Name one player that has one without a great supporting guy. Kobe had Gasol and Shaq, Wade had Shaq, Duncan had Parker, Magic had Kareem, Bird and Parish et. al, the pistons had several great players, speak in hypotheticals all you want, but to say the Scottie wasn't a team player or that removing him and the Bulls would have been anywhere close to what they were is clearly completely overwhelmed by a personal bias.

Right, I have a personal bias when a so-called teammate won't leave the bench because he isn't called upon to be the star of the day. I have as much respect for him as I do a player who won't come on the floor for the National Athem.

[BradleyJD]

Right, I have a personal bias when a so-called teammate won't leave the bench because he isn't called upon to be the star of the day. I have as much respect for him as I do a player who won't come on the floor for the National Athem.

Agreed about Pippen. I always thought he was selfish and self-centered. He was important to the Bulls, but you could argue Rodman, Grant, Paxson, Hodges, etc. were also very important.

Teams win championships. Pippen was important to the Bulls' success. He was also a real horses *#@

[amckillip]

Right, I have a personal bias when a so-called teammate won't leave the bench because he isn't called upon to be the star of the day. I have as much respect for him as I do a player who won't come on the floor for the National Athem.

Haha, so one selfish moment is the same as that? I need to stick to my rule to only get in debates where logic is applied.