Kirk Wessler editorial 3/31

[bigdaddystuck]

I actually heard about the rumors while I was down in St. Louis this weekend for the tourney. First place I looked for some discussion was on here, didn't see any. Looked on the PJS board and saw the discussion going on over there. Most of the posters over there acknowledged that they were discussing was rumors, not cold hard facts or anything else. I found that discussion interesting and from that realized that the rumors were just that, rumors and nothing more.

[Da Coach]

The point Dogs is making is people are sure quick to use his viewpoints when they support their own as quickly as they slam him when he rants on BU. You can't have it both ways. It's not whether he's right or wrong either.

Of course you can. Everyone does it in every walk of life.

If something is true or is a valid opinion, you can agree with it.
If it is wrong, you can disagree and call the person out for their mistakes.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and some are right and some are wrong.
The biggest difference between KW and the rest of us is that he gets paid to write something, whether he has anything to say or not, and whether he is right or not.

There have been KW columns in the past that were just plain wrong, and people here have pointed them out.

[Da Coach]

I actually heard about the rumors while I was down in St. Louis this weekend for the tourney. First place I looked for some discussion was on here, didn't see any. Looked on the PJS board and saw the discussion going on over there. Most of the posters over there acknowledged that they were discussing was rumors, not cold hard facts or anything else. I found that discussion interesting and from that realized that the rumors were just that, rumors and nothing more.

bigdaddy, there was a thread that was eventually removed on that board, that had multiple posters insisting the story came from reliable sources like Bradley board members! There were posters who mocked anyone who didn't buy into the rumor, and many others who chimed in with the "I heard it, too, so it must be true". There was only the rare level headed poster like mrcoachdude.
It was only after a couple days passed and nothing official came out that the rumor-mongers started to back off a bit. But there are some still espousing this whole thing!

[tornado]

... reliable sources like Bradley board members! ..!

you mean Bradley trustees, not the members of the Bradley (message) board

[BradleyJD]

bigdaddy, there was a thread that was eventually removed on that board, that had multiple posters insisting the story came from reliable sources like Bradley board members! There were posters who mocked anyone who didn't buy into the rumor, and many others who chimed in with the "I heard it, too, so it must be true". There was only the rare level headed poster like mrcoachdude.
It was only after a couple days passed and nothing official came out that the rumor-mongers started to back off a bit. But there are some still espousing this whole thing!

I will tell you that I am the one who passed the information onto BigDaddy. I got a phone call while in St. Louis from someone who had heard it from a local high school A.D.

I never passed it to anyone else, and I did not post the information on the internet either. I assumed it was a rumor.

I also did not believe that BU would do it right before the LOI period.

It is interesting though that I heard this story/rumor from an unusual source.

[tornado]

thank you for revealing that story -- but local high school coaches and AD are hardly in the loop of what's going on at BU -
and as I said elsewhere - in eight years of Jim Les as head coach not a single real detail of any part of his contract, the terms, the pay, the length, etc..
has ever been made known for certainty and all is speculation... but this rumor "knew" way, way too much with too much detail....so how did others not KNOW it appears ludicrous on face value?

[ER3]

There have been KW columns in the past that were just plain wrong, and people here have pointed them out.

When Wessler wrote that "Better Days Were Not Ahead" for this year's team after a mediocre start to the conference season...you were very quick to label him as 'wrong' and blast his opinion there...
I'd say, in the end, he was right...you might be the one that was "just plain wrong" in that instance.

[lefty]

Of course you can. Everyone does it in every walk of life.

If something is true or is a valid opinion, you can agree with it.
If it is wrong, you can disagree and call the person out for their mistakes.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and some are right and some are wrong.
The biggest difference between KW and the rest of us is that he gets paid to write something, whether he has anything to say or not, and whether he is right or not.

There have been KW columns in the past that were just plain wrong, and people here have pointed them out.

some opinions are wrong?....I'm not sure I agree with your opinion here

[SaintLouBrave22]

When Wessler wrote that "Better Days Were Not Ahead" for this year's team after a mediocre start to the conference season...you were very quick to label him as 'wrong' and blast his opinion there...
I'd say, in the end, he was right...you might be the one that was "just plain wrong" in that instance.

Post of the Morning IMO...


It must be hard to jump all over someone for months upon end and saying he's worthless and out for blood and then all of a sudden in one moment say oh wow he couldn't be more right...


I mean I know even a blind squirrel can find an acorn every once in awhile, but most of us were ok with those of you that just seemed to think he was an a-hole and stick with that rather than being all wishy washy about it.


Please just pick and side and stick with it.

[Da Coach]

In that column, KW said Bradley would not get better and that they were headed for the Thursday play-in round. They did not, and shortly after he wrote that, Bradley knocked off Top 25 ranked Northern Iowa and advanced in the MVC tournament to the semifinal game.
I think that qualifies as being wrong.

[lefty]

In that column, KW said Bradley would not get better and that they were headed for the Thursday play-in round. Shortly after he wrote that, Bradley knocked off Top 25 ranked Northern Iowa.
I think that qualifies as being wrong.

Don't you think opinions can be wrong after time plays out?

People here said we would be finish at the top of league. It was their opinion...people are wrong all the time whether they write for the paper or on a message board.

[tornado]

isn't a newspaper's job to be sure before running with a story...
the headline, front page story saying John Wilkins had committed to Iowa State is just one example, but there are others
where they've said things than later had egg on their faces....like saying Manual Cass had verballed to Bradley, like calling Eric Gordon a pile of ***, like making the claim that Bruce Weber angered the Chicago CPL coaches by calling one of them the "N" word, Liesse's complete and total misquoting of some fans and trashing them over the Jamar thing...etc...
considering the number of blatant errors and bad moves, their track record is certainly way worse than some message board posters.....(although not as bad as some..)

[SaintLouBrave22]

In that column, KW said Bradley would not get better and that they were headed for the Thursday play-in round. They did not, and shortly after he wrote that, Bradley knocked off Top 25 ranked Northern Iowa and advanced in the MVC tournament to the semifinal game.
I think that qualifies as being wrong.

Obviously we didn't head to the play in but we also were just one game and a tie breaker out of it....


AND


Where did we get better?



We did finish in the 4/5 AGAIN and lost in the semis AGAIN...



How is that any better than what has been going on the last 3 years?



Yeah he may be wrong in parts but he was also right in articles too...


Jump all over him by all means, its your right, but don't act as though you haven't said something blatantly wrong as well...


I do recall earlier in the year you really fully believing that we would finish 1st or 2nd....

[ER3]

Jump all over him by all means, its your right, but don't act as though you haven't said something blatantly wrong as well...


I do recall earlier in the year you really fully believing that we would finish 1st or 2nd....

But wait...that was before we lost Pre-Season Valley Player of the Year, Pre-Season NCAA All-American, and future NBA lottery pick Dodie Dunson...with Dodie, we clearly would have gone 31-5, won the Valley, won the Valley Tournament, and we'd now be preparing for our matchup in the Final Four with Duke on Saturday night...

[BradleyBrave]

I think the volume was just turned up on something that was probably going away...hmm.