Eddren McCain

[SaintLouBrave22]

Anyone who has talked to me knows this isn't at all the guy or guys that were "supposed" to leave the program...


I can not mention names, but take that for what it is...


Either this may throw a wrench into those plans OR we may have many scholies to give in the near future...



Stay tuned, this could get interesting...

[SaintLouBrave22]

What would you have told him if you were coach?

Pretty much the same thing he told JC....


Difference is, JC worked and worked and worked some more and worked his butt off enough to where he made him play him....



Thats whats supposed to happen and what happened before everyone decided to start transferring out of programs because things got a little rough...

[it's boogie time]

Just my opinion, but I think Jeremy Crouch was an exception rather than the norm. The only freshmen during JC's slumping sophomore year were Ray Brown and Saihou Jassey. Obviously, neither one panned out for different reasons. If there had been a younger player at Crouch's position that had passed him on the depth chart, we might have never seen the great things he did his final two years after he tweaked his shot and got into great shape.

[Da Coach]

Also, in 2006 we lost a couple pretty good guard/wings to graduation in Tony Bennett and Lawrence Wright.
Bradley also lost most of their starting lineup, includin their top 4 scorers from that team in Marcellus Sommerville, Patrick O'Bryant, Bennett and Wright. That opened a lot of available playing time for JC to get right back into the rotation. This year's team only loses Singh and Roberts- none are starters and none competed with EM for playing time, and none rank among the top scorers on the team. Plus we get Dunson back and have an incoming point guard recruit. The environment is totally different for McCain as opposed to jeremy.

[SaintLouBrave22]

Also, in 2006 we lost a couple pretty good guard/wings to graduation in Tony Bennett and Lawrence Wright.
Bradley also lost most of their starting lineup, includin their top 4 scorers from that team in Marcellus Sommerville, Patrick O'Bryant, Bennett and Wright. That opened a lot of available playing time for JC to get right back into the rotation. This year's team only loses Singh and Roberts- none are starters and none competed with EM for playing time, and none rank among the top scorers on the team. Plus we get Dunson back and have an incoming point guard recruit. The environment is totally different for McCain as opposed to jeremy.

Roberts wasn't a starter?


Thats news to me...


Also, you are correct and its a different scenario, but I recall Les telling JC he thought he should transfer to get more PT...

Recall that Ray Brown was scheduled to be the starting SG until the drug suspensions and other issues and its not like we wouldn't have brought in other players if JC would have transferred...


What I am getting at is that regardless of what the situation was, JC took it upon himself to get so much better that Les had no choice but to play him...



Just wish some of our bigs would have that mindset (or Milos).

[Da Coach]

Oops, I apologize for that misstatement- but what I was meaning to say is that we don't lose anyone who was ahead of EM and who plays his position. That is the big difference from this year and 2006. JC stayed (and got better) because there was a lot of available playing time opening up.

[SaintLouBrave22]

Oops, I apologize for that misstatement- but what I was meaning to say is that we don't lose anyone who was ahead of EM and who plays his position. That is the big difference from this year and 2006. JC stayed (and got better) because there was a lot of available playing time opening up.

I have to argue with you there though, because how exactly do you get better IF there's no one to compete with?


Competition is what makes most better, not a lack there of.


Also, JC worked with quite a few people during that offseason AND they certainly developed him...

[MacabreMob]

Best wishes to Eddren.

[Dubl R 1]

If true, I wish the best for Eddren wherever he goes. He's been through a lot.

[basketball nut]

Roberts wasn't a starter?


Thats news to me...


Also, you are correct and its a different scenario, but I recall Les telling JC he thought he should transfer to get more PT...

Recall that Ray Brown was scheduled to be the starting SG until the drug suspensions and other issues and its not like we wouldn't have brought in other players if JC would have transferred...


What I am getting at is that regardless of what the situation was, JC took it upon himself to get so much better that Les had no choice but to play him...



Just wish some of our bigs would have that mindset (or Milos).

B22-you are exactly right about JC and working hard-Just talked the other day to one of his former coaches about that very thing. He mentioned all of the hours he spent in the gym w/ JC just working on perfecting his shooting and also how much JC took it on himself to get in better shape. I really think a lot of JC's mentality came from his family (grandpa, uncles and father) as they were all hard working BB players.
This may not be the case for EM-you have to remember in HS everything came a lot easier then in college and some kids never learn how m,uch hard work it takes.
Anyway, if this is true best of luck to EM

[houstontxbrave]

I really hope EM reconsiders and sticks around, in 10 years he will be very happy he made that choice. A Bradley degree versus lets say Louisiana Monroe Huge difference.

But as far as basketball is concerned, JL is fighting for his job and he can not afford to have a guard who is unable to score/shoot in his rotation. I would imagine he was very upfront and blunt with EM and EM likely took the discussion wrong.

College Basketball is a business even at Bradley.

[SaintLouBrave22]

But as far as basketball is concerned, JL is fighting for his job and he can not afford to have a guard who is unable to score/shoot in his rotation. I would imagine he was very upfront and blunt with EM and EM likely took the discussion wrong.

College Basketball is a business even at Bradley.

BUT pointing the finger at the staff, for just a second...


Les MUST LEARN how to play more than 7 guys, otherwise, this will be an every year occurance...


I cite Dayton and Creighton as examples...both fairly successful and both play 10-12 guys...


I am not saying flat out to play 12 because we don't have the talent as of yet, BUT you will earn more recruits if they believe they will get time no matter how many players you may have...


Right now, we just lost our #3 PG...in a 10-12 man system, he still gets some PT and a chance to pass someone with good play...


Also, a larger rotation helps players develop as I am sorry, but AT and Milos are not going to develop much further by practicing against our own guys and riding the pine during games.

[Fetz86]

Sorry to see him go, he was great at getting up and down the court, dribbling through people, and finishing at the rim in random pick up games at markin before spring break.

[BuB]

If this is true.... for basketball reasons and playing time this is a good move for him personally. But it is a real bad move for him if he leave now before the semester is over. He would not receive full credit for the classes he is taking. This only would make him attend school longer to get his degree. IMO he should stay, get full credit for all his classes, and then make a move. If he is in bad academic standing then it probably doesn't matter if he leaves now or later.

[Future Walk-On]

Sorry to see him go, he was great at getting up and down the court, dribbling through people, and finishing at the rim in random pick up games at markin before spring break.

Haha in pick up games at the Markin.......I can hold my own in pick up games at the Markin!